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Originally Posted by dogbone
Yeah, I don't think I was losing much there either. I'm just saying in general, slides are not best for fast lap times.
Can you explain what you mean in this case by pushy-loose? Are you saying that the car starts as understeer, but then gets loose?
Perhaps I need to open the wheel back up sooner.
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Pushy-loose to me means a car that is tight enough that you have to feed in too much steering lock to get it turned, punishing the outside front while masking the fact that the outside rear is pretty close to maxed out; then when you feed in throttle you almost immediately overload the outside rear...so the car can feel "snappy" on the limit even though it feels understeery steady-state. The stock setup on an E9xM has this quality, with an extra helping of slow diff that likes to go full-lock halfway through a corner (stock E46M is also one of the pushy-loose poster children)
Of course, the same effect can be caused by just overdriving the entry speed of corners and then you have to sit there and wait forever for your trackout to materialize in front of you before you can get back into the throttle all the way...but an easy way to test if it's car or driver is to just back off the entry speeds and like you said, open up the wheel earlier on the throttle and see if it enables better exit speeds. If you can give it up on entry to get better exit, it's probably you. If giving a bit up on entry just means you're slower out too, you were probably getting most of what the car was able to give with the understeer built into the setup, and might just need more frontend.
There's only so much "open up the wheel earlier" you can do before you're out of road if the car is just naturally understeering due to aero balance or whatever