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Originally Posted by BimmerMan33
Here's what is needed in order to make cars faster & more fuel efficient:
- less moving parts in the engine and less friction among those moving parts = quieter engines, hence addition of fake sounds.
- turbochargers to increase power & fuel efficiency = loss of sporty exhaust sound & quieter intake sound, hence addition of fake sounds.
- stiffer chassis/suspension bushings with minimal give so as to handle better at faster speeds & return faster lap times = loss/decrease in chassis feel/feedback - just feels too stiff unless driven aggressively.
Car companies have to make cars that comply with stringent regulations & meet market expectations, all while being cost effective & sustainable. People on this forum (myself included) are not representative of general market expectations!
You can only do so much when BMW builds almost all of its line up based on just 2 platforms.
Now, look at BRZ/86 twins - feels like a cheaper/lighter/slower version of e46 chassis - barely sold enough to justify a second generation. Now imagine putting a more powerful engine in it & add some sound deadening (all that's needed to make BRZ perfect), but that'll add weight & likely need stiffer suspension to handle the extra power to get reasonable lap times = a heavy car with less feel & more stiffness.
I personally prefer my e92 M3 than F8x M4 & it might be the last M car for me... we'll see!
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That was a roundabout way of coming to the conclusion that you prefer the
e9x to the f8x and I don't really follow your logic but cheers!