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      06-20-2016, 01:26 PM   #137
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Really? How about a JD Power quality study? Do you know that Mexican plants have lots of times beaten their North American counterparts (including Canadian ones BTW) for quality results?

I guess everything you own is built in developed countries?

In the end, prejudice is your right. If you end up driving what in your imagination is a better car (because of country of assembly) but in reality is by all objective measures an inferior one, more power to you.
I put my money where my mouth is, and id say almost everything is coming from the country or origin, or rather where the development started, and was proven to be successful before going overseas.

Being an educated buyer does not make me prejudice. I know you may have a personal agenda with that remark, but im not waiving one flag from one country over another. In some cases the best country for production is Sweden, Canada, Japan or the USA.

I have personal experience working close with a product manager that was responsible for moving the manufacturing of high end product originally made and designed in the USA to China. As previously mentioned it wasn't un heard of that 30% of the product that arrived did not meet spec after that move. A team of people needed to check every product that came through to catch the errors. I asked what happens when stuff slips through and he said "it woudn't matter if it all slipped through. We'd will still make more money even if we had to replace all 30% of the defective product"

I'm a big skier/snowboarder and used to only buy Hestra gloves that were originally design and made in Sweden. As soon as they made their stuff in China I noticed immediately QC issues such as stitching coming apart, bigger variances in colours that should be the same etc.

Remember Webber BBQs once a proud american made product? Now all made in china you can tell its simply a cheaper product.

Classe Audio used to be hand made in Canada, before being sent ver to china. I have stuff thats 15 years old that has never had a single issue vs the stuff 4 years old after being made in china that has needed to be replaced twice. This is stuff that costs 5-10k per piece!

As I said I put my money where my mouth is and pay the premium when ever I can. Dishwashers, vacuums, furniture, lighting, electronics this list goes on and on. I never get the made in china (or overseas equivalent) when purchasing. Ill never support the outsourced option, and this comes from experience. I tend to research and lean towards buying best in class, so I do research before making a purchase.

On the issue of "prejudice" i will come clean that there is an element in my buying decisions where I don't want to send my money to countries where I disagree with their human/animal rights standards, or general respect for our planet. If that makes me prejudice then so be it.
Bravo. Good post. I'm in complete agreement. I'm a big skier also. Wifey and I have a bunch of Arc'terck gear that was bullet proof when it was manufactured in Canada. Now it's of course made in China and quality has suffered. It's all about the $$$$
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