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Originally Posted by DiXiS 18
I said almost as bad, nobody is as bad as Extreme Disaster Track Events. They are the Walmart of track days. Nickel and dime you for everything and constantly pushing their track packs. The crowd that they attract are garbage drivers. Don't keep their cars maintained and don't drive very well. So in each session you have a minimum of 10+ offs/break downs on track and need to worry about people hitting you or oil on track or something annoying. Then spend hours cleaning up the track because of said idiot. Just ridiculous. They probably have the worst organized track days in the nation I would assume.
dogbone, its funny I was thinking the same thing when signing up for NCRC. Man this seems pretty serious, they want to know your whole driving background. But that was a joke compared to what I saw out there. I would say like 80% of the drivers in that session sign up for advanced with another organization they would be moved to a beginner class immediately.
As far as PCA, I never actually ran on track with them but I did attend one of their events as a spectator. The morning meeting lasted so long that it went through the drivers 1st sessions. That was mind boggling to me and made that decision easy.
Well thats easy to say now after that fact, but why not address it when you have 5 people in front of you complaining about the same guy. Instead they decided to stay stubborn, follow their own mindset, insult us and say its our own fault, and do nothing about it. Well easy enough, I can just take my money elsewhere then. I doubt they care and neither do I, but I will make sure everyone knows my experience so they don't get screwed like me either.
The good thing about Cali is that its saturated with track events so I can pick and choose who to run with. I wouldn't run with NCRC again unless I go out there with a Prius in advanced group just to prove my point.
Another funny story about NCRC was the only other time I ran with them. Was at Buttonwillow and in the morning meeting the organizer starts off by saying we are running 13CCW when everyone had signed up for 13CW. So he insists that EVERYONE is wrong and we are welcome to have a refund and head home if we don't like it. After EVERYONE arguing with him for a bit he decides to take a vote where EVERYONE says they want to run 13CW. He's still not convinced and is saying 13CCW. Finally someone takes out their phone and shows him the email confirmation and schedule and everything showing 13CW and he caves in. Like cmon, you are the organizer and don't even know what we are doing that day. Then we all have to convince you to correct it. Just reiterates their stubbornness which I doubt will every change. Like I said, easy enough to go elsewhere.
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NCRC is probably the second least expensive organizer out there, so it comes as no surprise that you had a questionable experience. I dunno, maybe try running with other, more expensive organizations? I know that Speed Ventures is popular. Aaron Bitterman is pretty good at running a tight ship.