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When in rome my friend... ain't that the pot calling the kettle black Mister Mod crazy!
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Originally Posted by flipm3
I have spoken to friends who have done some very aggressive cams on their E46 M3s and none of them notice any loss in low end power. I think that is a by-product of proper VANOS/cam tuning.
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Quite a dichotomy from the folks in this thread who instilled their logic on this matter indicating that "
upgraded cams on my S54B32 resulted in little gains" so therefore indicating the cams would be a waste on the S65B40. Even though
the lack of VANOS control in their tunes were the real culprit... What kind of logic is that? This is not the spirit of the enthusiast community where the goal is to learn, post data, share with others, and maximize potential.
How many years did we hear that the "
S54 was maxxed out" for tuning, head work, and cams? Hell...almost a decade!
Only to see a DIY guy with balls (stash1 on m3forum) to blow those rumors out of the water to the tune of an additional 50+ whp for a 288/280 cammed S54 with some polish work on the head. Evolve has tuned for cams only on the S54 with gains near 40+ whp with no loss in torque.
Do folks really think that
+40whp on the S54 is inconsequential for a cam upgrade? Or are we still in the it doesn't make the "$ per hp" logic?
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Originally Posted by flipm3
I really hope someone gives these cams a shot just so we can see what the potential is!
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I do too! With a competent tuner I would expect results on par or greater than the delta for the S54. No offense to the boosted E9X crowd, but a 450+ whp, reliable N/A S65B40 would absolutely perfect the chassis.
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All I know is that I'd rather buy cams then spend a handful of thousand dollars on just a muffler and fancy CF bits and pieces.
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Ah yes. The same folks that knock the price of this N/A work ($/hp theory) can spend several large on "look at me" boat anchor wheels, a fart-can muffler, and a CSL bootlid with exposed carbon with NO tangible performance benefit and do not understand the hypocrisy in their argument.
Somebody interested in an N/A build put their big boy panties on and pull the trigger and give Evolve the reigns to tune the beast.
Flame on!