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Turbanator wrote
I didn't catch this either, OP didn't let us know of the monthly update like usual 😉.

To answer your questions though, platform will absolutely be the same as G84 (and thus G80/G81), but production dates don't seem to be known yet. There is a 1 year gap between the EV M3 body styles, but that's bc the ZA0 M3 sedan is starting production before the NA1 (i3 Touring) is, so no clue if that timeline will be consistent with the ICE variants.

This news does make me a little more worried for the trimlines of the G51 in the US though. If there's an M3 Touring for sale as well, I'd think BMW would then offer the 330 Touring in the US rather than the M350 to try to upsell the performance-minded customers. I don't have any interest in a 4-pot, nor can I really justify the compromises of the M3 as a daily (harsher suspension, higher initial cost, higher cost of ownership, etc), so I'm really hoping they go for the B58 version instead of the B48 (though I'm not holding my breath at all).
Yeah, I agree that it would 99.9% be the same as the G84 but was just putting that out there. Was more curious about the timing.

Unless there is something that I really don't like about it, I was already planning to get a G84. I have a 911 4 GTS as my daily/fun can and the M3 is my "more practical" car :lol: but if there is a touring available at the same time as the G84 releases, then I would seriously consider it depending on looks.
Barathon wrote
ynguldyn wrote
G88 M3 Touring is real and is planned for the US too.
How is nobody talking about this?

ynguldyn's user avatarynguldyn Will this be the same platform and release dates as the G84?
Because I only added that line last night.

Yes. No.
Turbanator wrote
ynguldyn's user avatarynguldyn On a related note to the G88, the user that first mentioned it on these forums also discussed a G89 acting as a SWB M3 to replace the G87. Any word on this endeavor so far?
No. But he was an actual insider with actual knowledge, which is why all his posts only survive as quotes.
The "rediscovery" of Tourings in the North American market is epic news if true! :cool!:
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I wouldn’t be surprised if the G88 M3 Touring ironically only exists because of the US since otherwise ICE M3 Touring volumes may have been too low to make the business case solely within the rapidly electrifying EU and China.
Sudtirol wrote
I wouldn’t be surprised if the G88 M3 Touring ironically only exists because of the US since otherwise ICE M3 Touring volumes may have otherwise been too low to make the business case solely within the rapidly electrifying EU and China.
How ironic that would be given the Touring was deemed such a failure in the US that we specifically only missed the 3er Touring that got an M3 variant.
Sudtirol wrote
I wouldn’t be surprised if the G88 M3 Touring ironically only exists because of the US since otherwise ICE M3 Touring volumes may have otherwise been too low to make the business case solely within the rapidly electrifying EU and China.
From a Brand/Marketing perspective while the touring has a small niche of actual buyers (relative to the sedan) it follows BMW overall and especially Ms big push into personalization/individuality. as an observer we can see BMW is realizing a ton of value there like the huge effort into promoting and actively encouraging individual colors, having 8 interior options, different brake colors

The need for touring existence (and in the us) probably came alongside the same realization that they needed an ICE M3. Even if it didn’t leak until it recently crossed whatever gate internally makes things visible to insider. I imagine the next up to cross this gate will be whatever the decision about the coupe version was made but bmw has a bit more breathing room with both the g82 and g87 in prod through 2029.
M3 Touring coming to the US…well I now know what my next BMW will be! :happyanim: :dance:
Thread referenced by hafrew in G88 M3 touring confirmed, and also confirmed for the US? 07-27-2026
Thread referenced by javapro in iX5 discussion thread for iX owners 07-28-2026
ynguldyn's user avatarynguldyn Is it fair to assume no ZA1 for the US at this point?
Sudtirol wrote
ynguldyn's user avatarynguldyn Is it fair to assume no ZA1 for the US at this point?
As stated in the top post.
ynguldyn wrote
As stated in the top post.
Got it, thanks. I was hoping maybe there was a chance we’d get the ZA1 but not NA1 like the current M5.
Mg. wrote
Wow, finally some news about the upcoming i4 (coupe and cabrio I presume). Hoping we'll start seeing spy photos of the prototypes soon.
Well well well. Only a month later and we did in fact get our first i4 cabrio spyshots!
ynguldyn wrote
G84 is confirmed to use S58.
ynguldyn's user avatarynguldyn Will a manual transmission be on offer for G84 + S58? Or is it only going to be mild hybrid? (Therefore MT would not even be possible)
Since there are now first spy shots of the NA2/NA3, is there anything known about an ZA2/ZA3?
brainDotExe wrote
Since there are now first spy shots of the NA2/NA3, is there anything known about an ZA2/ZA3?
Wonder this myself. But I guess we have to wait a bit longer for news about those. I wouldn't be surprised, if BMW decides to launch only one ZAx model for the time being to determine how the market reacts.
Some more info on the unique aspects of Alpina models:
Paints: As of now, four main colors, white, black, brown, and green
Kinda wild that Alpina Blue wouldn't be a standard color...
Will the 8 series get a refresh?
G20Bass wrote
Will the 8 series get a refresh?
Pretty sure the only thing the 8 Series is getting is a gold watch and a party.
is there anything know already regarding NA0/NA1 and model lineup besides the 50x? Will there be only the 30 and 40x and if so, will they both have the ca. 84kWh battery?
It just confuses me a bit, since the NA5 has the 50x, soon 40x and 40.
NA5 50x has the same setup as NA0 50x, if NA5 40x and NA0 40x match, what will be the difference between NA5 40 and NA0 30. Just the drivetrain or also the battery?

thanks!!
jpxr wrote
is there anything know already regarding NA0/NA1 and model lineup besides the 50x? Will there be only the 30 and 40x and if so, will they both have the ca. 84kWh battery?
It just confuses me a bit, since the NA5 has the 50x, soon 40x and 40.
NA5 50x has the same setup as NA0 50x, if NA5 40x and NA0 40x match, what will be the difference between NA5 40 and NA0 30. Just the drivetrain or also the battery?

thanks!!
Have you tried reading the top post?
there will be two motors offered: one for 20 models (currently this is NA0 only), the other for 40 models.[/BACKGROUND]
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NA0 and NA1 will use the same batteries for the same models, with the exception of 20 and 40 RWD that will have their own batteries, possibly with different chemistry
I guess the i3 20 was renamed to 30 sometime along the way.