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      05-31-2014, 11:37 PM   #45
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I am sorry were you saying something. I wasnt really concerned
Excellent humor, not. Keep it up, I ain't tired yet.
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It really doesn't matter if that particular definition applies to our discussion or not. I firmly say it isn't the best definition but isn't all wrong either. But it is largely irrelevant to me being right and you being wrong. THERE IS NO EXPERIMENTAL EVIDENCE, PERIOD. That was YOUR bloody definition. Oh well, keep grasping at straws...



Well I guess holding your feet to the fire is uncomfortable. If you want to speak something meaningful instead of meta-post drivel bring the specifics. There is so much interpretation in this drivel I can barely stomach it. If you want to make a point rather than flap you lips provide:

-What was out of context in this debate?
-How did I invent my own meaning? Because your dictionary definition does not fit the appropriate context of this discussion? Again see my first point just above.
-What did I remove from what you said?
-How is my rebuttal based on a discussion that did not occur.

Keep it in this thread.

DRIVEL, unbelievable, nothing but drivel.



Yeah, when you can't win just resort to complete mischaracterizations. You can say it as many times as you like, there is no chest beating. I'm being factual, clear and I've made my point. All while remaining rather calm and collected and I haven't resorting to an insults.

This whole debate here in this thread is simple. You present your hypothesis as something firm, known and factual. It isn't. There is nothing really left to discuss.
I see you're still claiming to be smarter than a dictionary. I didn't bother to read anything else except the last few lines. You really believe all that about yourself? Please don't answer. I'd ask you about 10 more questions about your inconsistencies, but I don't really care to hear more self-serving answers. I'm just here to help people understand their cars, and I will continue to explain things in language they understand.
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We should open a new subforum called "Regular guy vs Swamp2", which I and, I`m sure, mamy others will never visit. But at least we dont come to the Engine subforum and accidentally get in the cross fire of this constant battle.
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flap you lips

DRIVEL, unbelievable, nothing but drivel.

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I think it is swamp2 who is flapping his lips and contributing drivel.
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I see you're still claiming to be smarter than a dictionary. I didn't bother to read anything else except the last few lines. You really believe all that about yourself? Please don't answer. I'd ask you about 10 more questions about your inconsistencies, but I don't really care to hear more self-serving answers. I'm just here to help people understand their cars, and I will continue to explain things in language they understand.
Keep up the contradictions, you obviously read my whole post. You're too funny. You can barely speak without making a contradiction. The whole point is that this isn't about me or about you. It is about fact vs. speculation and one thing I've been long known for around here is elucidating subtleties, fighting misperceptions and helping to bring some decent science/engineering into a domain where it too often is not present. I'll keep up this hobby as long as you keep presenting speculation as fact. Thanks Mr. M3 forum unofficial Mr. Populist. Cheers.
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one thing I've been long known for around here is elucidating subtleties, fighting misperceptions and helping to bring some decent science/engineering
No, you are not a superhero. You are so full of yourself that the "you know what" is just oozing out. Try arrogant, argumentative, pedantic and insufferable if you want some adjectives for a self-description.
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We should open a new subforum called "Regular guy vs Swamp2", which I and, I`m sure, mamy others will never visit. But at least we dont come to the Engine subforum and accidentally get in the cross fire of this constant battle.
Ahh yep, another day in the Engine subforum. It's to the point where if I have issues, I'd rather text forum members than post something here.
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Ahh yep, another day in the Engine subforum. It's to the point where if I have issues, I'd rather text forum members than post something here.
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No, you are not a superhero. You are so full of yourself that the "you know what" is just oozing out. Try arrogant, argumentative, pedantic and insufferable if you want some adjectives for a self-description.
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No, you are not a superhero. You are so full of yourself that the "you know what" is just oozing out. Try arrogant, argumentative, pedantic and insufferable if you want some adjectives for a self-description.
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Keep up the contradictions, you obviously read my whole post.
I didn't...but it sounds like you wish I did.
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No, you are not a superhero. You are so full of yourself that the "you know what" is just oozing out. Try arrogant, argumentative, pedantic and insufferable if you want some adjectives for a self-description.
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Because sociopath.

Just wanted to try that too. Definitely not as good as because racecar.
I see what you did there...
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Yawn, here we go again
Good call to sit this one out. Heehee
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It really doesn't matter if that particular definition applies to our discussion or not. I firmly say it isn't the best definition but isn't all wrong either. But it is largely irrelevant to me being right and you being wrong. THERE IS NO EXPERIMENTAL EVIDENCE, PERIOD. That was YOUR bloody definition. Oh well, keep grasping at straws...



Well I guess holding your feet to the fire is uncomfortable. If you want to speak something meaningful instead of meta-post drivel bring the specifics. There is so much interpretation in this drivel I can barely stomach it. If you want to make a point rather than flap you lips provide:

-What was out of context in this debate?
-How did I invent my own meaning? Because your dictionary definition does not fit the appropriate context of this discussion? Again see my first point just above.
-What did I remove from what you said?
-How is my rebuttal based on a discussion that did not occur.

Keep it in this thread.

DRIVEL, unbelievable, nothing but drivel.



Yeah, when you can't win just resort to complete mischaracterizations. You can say it as many times as you like, there is no chest beating. I'm being factual, clear and I've made my point. All while remaining rather calm and collected and I haven't resorting to an insults.

This whole debate here in this thread is simple. You present your hypothesis as something firm, known and factual. It isn't. There is nothing really left to discuss.
It depends on what the meaning of the word "is" is.
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And the actual measured tolerances for both the journals and bearings all show incredibly tight tolerances. Thus there is no observational evidence whatsoever supporting this speculation as the true cause. Yes, again, beating the dead horse... The hypothesis seems reasonable on the surface and I agree it is probably the best hypothesis we have yet, but it is a very long way from being able to be elevated to an actual theory...
I don't know about all this "hypothesis" and "actual theory" book smart scientist classification B.S.
Hell, every M3 engine I have read about that blew up ended up being bearing failure.
Plus we have massive research from Regularguy etc. that shows we have obvious clearance issues....this is cause and effect, probability and deduction. Don't need anything else...

I had a friend with a CTSV that had supercharger problems....people argued against it like Swamp on their forums too saying it was this and that and blah blah blah. Others found the highest probability of the cause and effect and guess what....probability wins out again..http://www.motorauthority.com/news/1...aro-zl1-models

If BMW had balls they would step up like Chevy and come out with the truth...

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I had a friend with a CTSV that had supercharger problems....people argued against it like Swamp on their forums too saying it was this and that and blah blah blah. Others found the highest probability of the cause and effect and guess what....probability wins out again..http://www.motorauthority.com/news/1...aro-zl1-models

If BMW had balls they would step up like Chevy and come out with the truth...
I'm impressed that Chevy would step up and fix that supercharger issue on their dime. I can't imagine BMW doing that for the S65 rod bearings. If a significant number of these do fail over time it will devalue the E9x M3 something fierce, especially the cars out-of-warranty that are actually driven every week by their owners.
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No, you are not a superhero. You are so full of yourself that the "you know what" is just oozing out. Try arrogant, argumentative, pedantic and insufferable if you want some adjectives for a self-description.
+1
Apparently you missed the irony here, so I quoted it for you. Although redundancy doesn't seem to matter when one attempts to make you realize when you're wrong. That's been clearly demonstrated by Swamp here in this thread.
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