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      06-03-2014, 12:39 PM   #1
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E92 M3 suspension options

Full disclosure, I'm a noob about suspensions. That said I've read the stickies so I'm getting there but need some advice please.

I'm purchasing a 2008 E92 with stock suspension with EDC. I want a more aggressive stancelook so I'm looking at suspension mods (springs or coilovers maybe) but I'd also like it to work with EDC.

Any opinions out there from the suspension experts on some fairly low cost solutions to achieve the look I'm going for. Note this car won't be for track purposes and will be a daily driver.

Thanks in advance!
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You could go with a simple spring swap (H&R, Dinan, etc) but I recently replaced my H&R springs with the following:

http://www.tcklineracing.com/index.c...y&Category=756

Completely EDC compatible and has the ride height adjustability being a coilover system. I've only drive a 1,000 miles on it, but given that I had a custom alignment/balancing done, it's a day night difference in how the car handles with just springs. And, the kit has camber plates for added adjustability included in the price.

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You could go with a simple spring swap (H&R, Dinan, etc) but I recently replaced my H&R springs with the following:

http://www.tcklineracing.com/index.c...y&Category=756

Completely EDC compatible and has the ride height adjustability being a coilover system. I've only drive a 1,000 miles on it, but given that I had a custom alignment/balancing done, it's a day night difference in how the car handles with just springs. And, the kit has camber plates for added adjustability included in the price.

*I too, am not by any means a susp'n expert, but I know what I like!*
Awesome, thanks for the advice. How much drop did you get out of this?

How do you adjust the ride height?

I'd love to see a picture if it's not too much trouble.
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I can't recall how much drop I got (I was 600 miles away from the car when it was installed). It's certainly lower than with just the H&R's. I am guessing the ride height went from the 3/4" drop with the H&R's to about 1.25" with the coilovers. (Both versus stock.)

Height adjustment is like any other coil over. If you look at the link, there is a threaded collar that allows for finite height adjustment.

I don't have any proper pictures of the car as she sits (I will tonight) but I do have pics of the parts installed. If you send me your email, I can get those to you today, and the other pics tonight.
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Full disclosure, I'm a noob about suspensions. That said I've read the stickies so I'm getting there but need some advice please.

I'm purchasing a 2008 E92 with stock suspension with EDC. I want a more aggressive stancelook so I'm looking at suspension mods (springs or coilovers maybe) but I'd also like it to work with EDC.

Any opinions out there from the suspension experts on some fairly low cost solutions to achieve the look I'm going for. Note this car won't be for track purposes and will be a daily driver.

Thanks in advance!
It's not the first time i'm saying this !
Would love to order the Swift/R Spec springs,the drop,stance and ride is just perfect and works with EDC ,but sadly i can't get a TUV/Approval for Euro/Spec cars and the yearly car inspection !
So again...damn this country !
Pic of drop with Swift springs.......Front > - 1" / Rear > - 0.7 "
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Hi, on the TCKline kit can the stock ride height (ZCP) be maintained for street use? thx

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You could go with a simple spring swap (H&R, Dinan, etc) but I recently replaced my H&R springs with the following:

http://www.tcklineracing.com/index.c...y&Category=756

Completely EDC compatible and has the ride height adjustability being a coilover system. I've only drive a 1,000 miles on it, but given that I had a custom alignment/balancing done, it's a day night difference in how the car handles with just springs. And, the kit has camber plates for added adjustability included in the price.

*I too, am not by any means a susp'n expert, but I know what I like!*
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Hi, on the TCKline kit can the stock ride height (ZCP) be maintained for street use? thx

I can't comment on that, but I am sure that there would be a position on the threaded collar that would retain the stock height.
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I can't recall how much drop I got (I was 600 miles away from the car when it was installed). It's certainly lower than with just the H&R's. I am guessing the ride height went from the 3/4" drop with the H&R's to about 1.25" with the coilovers. (Both versus stock.)

Height adjustment is like any other coil over. If you look at the link, there is a threaded collar that allows for finite height adjustment.

I don't have any proper pictures of the car as she sits (I will tonight) but I do have pics of the parts installed. If you send me your email, I can get those to you today, and the other pics tonight.
PM sent, thanks!
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It's not the first time i'm saying this !
Would love to order the Swift/R Spec springs,the drop,stance and ride is just perfect and works with EDC ,but sadly i can't get a TUV/Approval for Euro/Spec cars and the yearly car inspection !
So again...damn this country !
Pic of drop with Swift springs.......Front > - 1" / Rear > - 0.7 "
That looks just about perfect actually. Front 1" and rear .7" is right around where I'd want to be.

Thanks for the example and opinion!
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That looks just about perfect actually. Front 1" and rear .7" is right around where I'd want to be.

Thanks for the example and opinion!
If you're doing just springs that's too much of a drop for our suspension.
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That looks just about perfect actually. Front 1" and rear .7" is right around where I'd want to be.

Thanks for the example and opinion!
And that for a perfect price ! >http://www.hpashop.com/Swift-E92-M3-...E9x-Spec-R.htm
http://www.m3post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=790186
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If you're doing just springs that's too much of a drop for our suspension.
What is appropriate for our suspension using just springs?
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Dang that is a really good price! It's back ordered til mid June but I'm thinking about going with these!
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Dang that is a really good price! It's back ordered til mid June but I'm thinking about going with these!
Yes i know! And after several PM's with members on here it's not only the look (drop) that counts but with our cars also the ride is "very" important !
About the ride....
They are a bit harder than Oem, so normal with a lower spring,but no jumpy ride and they kill a lot of body roll !
Like i said above if i could get a TUV/Approval.....but sadly....Damn ?!?!
Think to move to the US....no Approvals....no 5H1T for car inspections !!!
Imagine...i realy want this springs....and can't due this damn country !
If someone knows a solution..........? >
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Yes i know! And after several PM's with members on here it's not only the look (drop) that counts but with our cars also the ride is "very" important !
About the ride....
They are a bit harder than Oem, so normal with a lower spring,but no jumpy ride and they kill a lot of body roll !
Like i said above if i could get a TUV/Approval.....but sadly....Damn ?!?!
Think to move to the US....no Approvals....no 5H1T for car inspections !!!
Imagine...i realy want this springs....and can't due this damn country !
If someone knows a solution..........? >
Sorry about that bro, thanks for the heads up though!
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After installing my Vorschlag.camber plates with stock zcp edc suspension the front was raised considerably and the rake was off. I recently installed the swift spec r springs up front only leaving the rear as stock and will be headed to the track on Monday to see how the combo works with the rake being back to neutral now. The front is maybe 1/2 inch lower than what it was stock as the camber plates easily added 1/2 inch.
No obvious ride difference that I can tell.
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After installing my Vorschlag.camber plates with stock zcp edc suspension the front was raised considerably and the rake was off. I recently installed the swift spec r springs up front only leaving the rear as stock and will be headed to the track on Monday to see how the combo works with the rake being back to neutral now. The front is maybe 1/2 inch lower than what it was stock as the camber plates easily added 1/2 inch.
No obvious ride difference that I can tell.
The front spring rate is like 280lbs/inch if my maths are right. The rear spring rate is in the 600+ lbs/inch (but I don't know the wheel rate for the rear).

I'm really interested in hearing about the street ability of the swift springs. I track the car once in a while (the E46M3 sees the most track time), but I commute all the time in the E90M3. I don't mind a stiffer ride, but I don't want my dental work to suffer (or hear about it from my wife -- her car is the E46M3 w/Eibach pro kit springs). Stock shocks will be used for now.
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I would love to hear about the street ability of the Swift Spec R springs as well. It seems a lot of people on here run them so they must be decent.
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The low cost solution would be to get H&R Sport Springs. Works well with EDC, very slight change of stiffness compared to stock. it's about $200+ for the springs. That's what I have and I'm sure you remember the car.
Yea, there's a deal right now on the Swift Spec-R's for $320 which is a pretty good price for the product you get. HR is something else I need to consider though.

I remember you but can't place the car, I went back to your posts but it looks like you took your car off the market and deleted the pics.

How much drop did it give you?
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I just got quoted to have the springs installed on the E92, does this sound right?

Sounds high to me.

Fronts $373
Rears $115
Alignment $80

Or is that about right?

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The low cost solution would be to get H&R Sport Springs. Works well with EDC, very slight change of stiffness compared to stock. it's about $200+ for the springs. That's what I have and I'm sure you remember the car.
Not a fan of the H&R stuff I've had in the past. I'm looking for a well engineered solution for those of us who want a lowered, but not slammed car. The range of travel of our suspensions is small to begin with, so the amount that isn't sacrificed due to the smaller diameter, wider spaced coils of the Swift springs is appealing as well.
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Not a fan of the H&R stuff I've had in the past. I'm looking for a well engineered solution for those of us who want a lowered, but not slammed car. The range of travel of our suspensions is small to begin with, so the amount that isn't sacrificed due to the smaller diameter, wider spaced coils of the Swift springs is appealing as well.
Ah just saw this after PM. Be very curious if you end up going this route.
My experience with H&R was on my E36. The sports were bouncy with my Bilsteins and Race was gosh horrid. Switched to Eibach which was closer to Euro spec M3 rates and worked much better with my then Bilsteins. So I am an old puppy with preconcieved opinion based on my past experience.

Be curious which route you go. There is someone selling a set of Swift for $250. I got Eibach mine used $175 shipped. Wouldnt hurt to do a comparison back to back? I got the front only H&R bar after speaking to Turner, reading their comparison on the orange M3 they have and reading richbot's opinion (he seems to know his s**t).

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