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Going with the F8X M3 or I already have one 73 14.40%
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      06-04-2014, 09:40 AM   #67
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dont be ridiculous. if anything the F80 has more ///M principles in it than any previous car in the company's history. Its the first ever M car that isn't fatter but lighter than its predecessor. Its the first ever M car with real brakes worthy of the track. It has solid bushings. More carbon fibre than ever before. Better suspension. Better aero. Better handling. Better performance. On the track it will be the most competent car BMW ever made.
F8x does not have an //M engine. End of story and end of my interest.
And lets see how the brakes hold up on the F8x at the track, especially the CCB.

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Let's revisit this in a year or two...I'm sure a lot of people will jump ship to the F8X.
Reliability will be a big thing for me. The turbo BMW models seem to have a lot more issues.
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E9x for a long while, then most likely into a P-car.
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I just can get enough of a high revving V8. That's very unusual
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      06-04-2014, 10:18 AM   #73
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F8x does not have an //M engine. End of story and end of my interest.
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Neither did the 1 M which is selling like hotcakes to all the fanboys at a high price premium. Nor do the X5M or X6M. The F80 isn't really breaking any new grounds in terms of an M car with turbos.
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Reliability will be a big thing for me. The turbo BMW models seem to have a lot more issues.
After having (3) N63's (1) N55 and (1) N18 , I would concur in saying they all can be temperamental.
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gotta buy a house first. i need 2 parking spots. I definitely can't have a z06 as my only car with the kind of winter we have over here. you obviously bought a z06 for the wrong reason if you sold it in less than a week.
I also thought at one point that a Z06 was a cool car... until my friend gave me a ride in his! Performance ain't everything!
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      06-04-2014, 11:29 AM   #77
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I will if my car is crashed beyond repair and I can't find another suitable non-sunroof, non-nav, 6mt car. M3 is still the only choice if you want a new reasonably small manual 4 door 400+ hp car
This. Manual + RWD + V8 + 4 doors + great steering and handling = a very rare bird. Very glad I've got mine. I'd love to keep it forever; if that doesn't work out, I may consider the F80 M3 at some point.

Like many others here, the sound is a lot of what makes the experience of this car fantastic. Would be hard to give that up.

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I don't think I'll sell for the next 8 years or so. Even then, I'd probably end up just keeping it and getting a new track toy / weekend car. The feeling that I get when driving around town is just amazing. The V8 rumble as it pushes me back into the seat seems to bring a smile to my face every time. I'm content with what I have.


And I'll be even more content once I finally get test pipes (or a full exhaust) and a tune!
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I also thought at one point that a Z06 was a cool car... until my friend gave me a ride in his! Performance ain't everything!
care to elaborate?
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Although, I love European Cars (pretty much my preference) and certain Japanese Cars as well. I grew up being exposed to 302's, 350's, 351's, 396's, 454's etc...

The S65B40 allows me to "albeit loosely" pay homage to the cars with the aforementioned engine variations (especially on cold start), in a right sized - for me at least - euro coupe with equal parts luxury/rawness. Put it this way perhaps F80 as an "addition" never a replacement
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man that's a huge downgrade just to listen to some exhaust sound and get a boring automatic gearbox. what's wrong with the z06 exhaust note anyway?

Further to the point of this thread, I have zero interest in any overpriced and unreliable modern BMW or even Porsche. Actually once I'm done with the M3 I may make the opposite move to you and get a C6 Z06. That or a GTR possibly. Or I may get an old S2k, Evo or Nissan Z and build it into a dedicated track car and have a more reasonable daily driver instead.
Downgrade? yea in terms of speed. The M is built so much better than any American car or Jap car i had in the past. The Z06 motor isnt a race motor...theyve been using the same old Pushrod since God knows when. YEs the Z smokes the M, slap a blower on the M..bye bye Z. Refinement! Apples to oranges. Good luck
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care to elaborate?
The car looks a bit cheap from the outside, but that can go, but then I jump inside and it's just the crapiest interior I've sitted in since my friends Sunfire in highschool, that's not OK at all, and finally I went for a ride and the car felt like a boat on the highway, like the steering was not connected to the wheels and the wheels were not connected to the road! Overhall a big dissapointment of a car(judged on my personnal criteria)!
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NOTHING, absolutely nothing, will beat hitting 8400 rpm on a naturally aspirated V8.
yes, that same V8 with a blower on it!
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Downgrade? yea in terms of speed. The M is built so much better than any American car or Jap car i had in the past. The Z06 motor isnt a race motor...theyve been using the same old Pushrod since God knows when. YEs the Z smokes the M, slap a blower on the M..bye bye Z. Refinement! Apples to oranges. Good luck
thats spot on. The LS motors have tons of power and a lot of room for more power. But they are more of a lazy motor.
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dont be ridiculous. if anything the F80 has more ///M principles in it than any previous car in the company's history. Its the first ever M car that isn't fatter but lighter than its predecessor. Its the first ever M car with real brakes worthy of the track. It has solid bushings. More carbon fibre than ever before. Better suspension. Better aero. Better handling. Better performance. On the track it will be the most competent car BMW ever made.
Since when being lighter then its predecessor is an M principle!? As for the better aero, suspension, brakes and performance, every M3 since the first one has been improved in those departement!
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F8x does not have an //M engine. End of story and end of my interest.
And lets see how the brakes hold up on the F8x at the track, especially the CCB.

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Neither did the 1M Coupe. And everyone loves that car.
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Neither did the 1M Coupe. And everyone loves that car.
Everyone loves the 1M but everyone also agree that the E9x is more special, mostly because of it's engine!

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... you are basically now the old MT fossil waving his cane at all the DCT punks with their skateboards and their rap music.
LOL. I did get a chuckle out if this. Like it or not, fellas (and ladies), technology evolves. This is just where we are, now. FI is storming the beach.

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