BMW M3 Forum (E90 E92)

BMW Garage BMW Meets Register Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read


Go Back   M3Post - BMW M3 Forum > M3 (E90 / E92 / E93) > M3 vs....
 
GTB Performance
Post Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
      05-27-2014, 09:21 AM   #1
khanhdom
0
Lieutenant
 
Drives: E92 M3, E46 M3
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: Houston, TX

Posts: 406
iTrader: (2)

Gallardo current and ex owners?

I'm contemplating on picking a first gen up by end of the year. My friend who has been persuading me tells me it's a really reliable and easy to maintain car. I been doing some research and it seems so but I also trust my friend. Any owners want to have some input? I will also be doing a stage 1 twin turbo kit on it once I get it. Thanks
khanhdom is offline  
Appreciate 0
Reply With Quote
      05-27-2014, 09:47 AM   #2
pgviper
0
Lieutenant
 
Drives: X3 xdrive35i
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: LI / BK

Posts: 429
iTrader: (0)

Pretty sure stage 1 twin turbo would severly reduce that reliability you mentioned...
pgviper is offline   United_States
Appreciate 0
Reply With Quote
      05-27-2014, 09:49 AM   #3
khanhdom
0
Lieutenant
 
Drives: E92 M3, E46 M3
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: Houston, TX

Posts: 406
iTrader: (2)

Quote:
Originally Posted by pgviper View Post
Pretty sure stage 1 twin turbo would severly reduce that reliability you mentioned...
do you know or are you assuming? Everywhere I read it doesn't really put anymore stress on the car like superchargers on M3's. It's only 5-6psi so no it really doesn't severely reduce the reliability.
khanhdom is offline  
Appreciate 0
Reply With Quote
      05-27-2014, 09:59 AM   #4
pgviper
0
Lieutenant
 
Drives: X3 xdrive35i
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: LI / BK

Posts: 429
iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by khanhdom View Post
do you know or are you assuming? Everywhere I read it doesn't really put anymore stress on the car like superchargers on M3's. It's only 5-6psi so no it really doesn't severely reduce the reliability.
Just assuming. From an analysis stand point, more parts means more points of failure, therefore less reliable. That's the rule of thumb for any aftermarket forced induction kit. If you want to drop the cash to twin turbo a lambo, why not just use that money to go with a newer one? Doesn't the power output of gallardo's increase throughout the model years though i'm sure it's not anywhere near the power point of a twin turbo.
pgviper is offline   United_States
Appreciate 0
Reply With Quote
      05-27-2014, 10:13 AM   #5
khanhdom
0
Lieutenant
 
Drives: E92 M3, E46 M3
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: Houston, TX

Posts: 406
iTrader: (2)

Quote:
Originally Posted by pgviper View Post
Just assuming. From an analysis stand point, more parts means more points of failure, therefore less reliable. That's the rule of thumb for any aftermarket forced induction kit. If you want to drop the cash to twin turbo a lambo, why not just use that money to go with a newer one? Doesn't the power output of gallardo's increase throughout the model years though i'm sure it's not anywhere near the power point of a twin turbo.
Ok well, sorry not to sound like an a**hole, but I want feedback of the car from a previous or current owner. I have done some research and my friend has the kit. The car can handle stage 1 easily without pretty much any extra stress. There have been high mileage of the car with the kit. I been modding for over a decade so I know the PC stuff you just said.
khanhdom is offline  
Appreciate 0
Reply With Quote
      05-27-2014, 10:23 AM   #6
pgviper
0
Lieutenant
 
Drives: X3 xdrive35i
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: LI / BK

Posts: 429
iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by khanhdom View Post
Ok well, sorry not to sound like an a**hole, but I want feedback of the car from a previous or current owner. I have done some research and my friend has the kit. The car can handle stage 1 easily without pretty much any extra stress. There have been high mileage of the car with the kit. I been modding for over a decade so I know the PC stuff you just said.
Not at all, I completely understand. I do have a buddy who was actually talking to me about the same exact idea. Getting an early gallardo and throwing a twin turbo on it. I'll see if he ever took the dive into the project and see what he says. Best of luck!
pgviper is offline   United_States
Appreciate 0
Reply With Quote
      05-27-2014, 10:43 AM   #7
UnaBomber
0
Second Lieutenant
 
UnaBomber's Avatar
 
Drives: 2012 X5, 2010 GTR
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: Bluffton, SC

Posts: 241
iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by khanhdom View Post
do you know or are you assuming? Everywhere I read it doesn't really put anymore stress on the car like superchargers on M3's. It's only 5-6psi so no it really doesn't severely reduce the reliability.
hes assuming. Friend has tens of thousands of miles on her bolt on TT R8 without any issues
__________________
2010 Nissan GTR,TopSpeed Motorsports 4 Liter Alpha12
Motec, JRZs, HREs, Alcon SuperKit, Carbon Errything,etc
9.01@164 - 1357whp 1040tq Road Race Prepped Monster
UnaBomber is offline  
Appreciate 0
Reply With Quote
      05-27-2014, 11:26 AM   #8
khanhdom
0
Lieutenant
 
Drives: E92 M3, E46 M3
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: Houston, TX

Posts: 406
iTrader: (2)

Quote:
Originally Posted by UnaBomber View Post
hes assuming. Friend has tens of thousands of miles on her bolt on TT R8 without any issues
nice bro, going to try to persuade my friend to get his R8 TT when he gets his
khanhdom is offline  
Appreciate 0
Reply With Quote
      05-27-2014, 11:44 AM   #9
radiantm3
0
Apex Everything!
 
radiantm3's Avatar
 
Drives: >1000 HP in my garage
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Danville, CA

Posts: 3,849
iTrader: (6)

Garage List
2013 BMW X5M  [4.33]
2014 BMW i3  [0.00]
2011 E92 M3  [4.80]
Have you driven one yet? I drove one for about 25-30 minutes in twisty mountain roads and while the sound is intoxicating, I really hated the overall driving experience. There's absolutely no leg room (and I'm short). You have to rest your left leg on the wheel well which means your knee is bent at 90 degrees while you drive. Rear visibility is practically non-existent. I felt like I was driving a uhaul truck in that regard. The gallardo is a beautiful car, but it's not a great car to drive at all. For the price I'd look into better driving cars, but that's just me. Not sure where they compare in price, but a F430 is like 30x better than the Gallardo to drive. The R8 V10 has a much better road feel too not to mention an interior that's way nicer. I feel like the only reason to buy a Gallardo is for the sound and attention you get driving one.

If you are going to spend money on a Gallardo, definitely test drive that car along with an F430 and R8 V10. You'll probably change your mind after.
__________________
2013 X5M for Sale
radiantm3 is offline   United_States
Appreciate 0
Reply With Quote
      05-27-2014, 12:01 PM   #10
khanhdom
0
Lieutenant
 
Drives: E92 M3, E46 M3
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: Houston, TX

Posts: 406
iTrader: (2)

Quote:
Originally Posted by radiantm3 View Post
Have you driven one yet? I drove one for about 25-30 minutes in twisty mountain roads and while the sound is intoxicating, I really hated the overall driving experience. There's absolutely no leg room (and I'm short). You have to rest your left leg on the wheel well which means your knee is bent at 90 degrees while you drive. Rear visibility is practically non-existent. I felt like I was driving a uhaul truck in that regard. The gallardo is a beautiful car, but it's not a great car to drive at all. For the price I'd look into better driving cars, but that's just me. Not sure where they compare in price, but a F430 is like 30x better than the Gallardo to drive. The R8 V10 has a much better road feel too not to mention an interior that's way nicer. I feel like the only reason to buy a Gallardo is for the sound and attention you get driving one.

If you are going to spend money on a Gallardo, definitely test drive that car along with an F430 and R8 V10. You'll probably change your mind after.
I'm sort of short too and I drive pretty close to the steering wheel, well on a manual. I had a s2000, so I'm used to the lack of visibility. I haven't read up on the f430, but the one thing I like about the Gallardo is it's reliability. I am going to test drive a Gallardo soon as soon as the weather here clear up.

R8 V10 is a beautiful car though definitely, nice inside and out and reliable. My friend was looking at one, so I wanted to be a bit different from him. Also I'll still have my M3
khanhdom is offline  
Appreciate 0
Reply With Quote
      05-27-2014, 12:09 PM   #11
whats77inaname
1
Native Texan
 
Drives: when at all possible
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: Tx

Posts: 1,851
iTrader: (16)

Quote:
Originally Posted by khanhdom View Post
I will also be doing a stage 1 twin turbo kit on it once I get it. Thanks
UGR?
whats77inaname is offline   United_States
Appreciate 0
Reply With Quote
      05-27-2014, 12:10 PM   #12
khanhdom
0
Lieutenant
 
Drives: E92 M3, E46 M3
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: Houston, TX

Posts: 406
iTrader: (2)

Quote:
Originally Posted by whats77inaname View Post
UGR?
probably and Dallas Performance is another great shop. I gotta get the car first though lol
khanhdom is offline  
Appreciate 0
Reply With Quote
      05-27-2014, 01:51 PM   #13
jc05e46m3
1
Colonel
 
Drives: '15 YMB/SO M4
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: SoCal

Posts: 2,326
iTrader: (1)

Quote:
Originally Posted by radiantm3 View Post
Have you driven one yet? I drove one for about 25-30 minutes in twisty mountain roads and while the sound is intoxicating, I really hated the overall driving experience. There's absolutely no leg room (and I'm short). You have to rest your left leg on the wheel well which means your knee is bent at 90 degrees while you drive. Rear visibility is practically non-existent. I felt like I was driving a uhaul truck in that regard. The gallardo is a beautiful car, but it's not a great car to drive at all. For the price I'd look into better driving cars, but that's just me. Not sure where they compare in price, but a F430 is like 30x better than the Gallardo to drive. The R8 V10 has a much better road feel too not to mention an interior that's way nicer. I feel like the only reason to buy a Gallardo is for the sound and attention you get driving one.

If you are going to spend money on a Gallardo, definitely test drive that car along with an F430 and R8 V10. You'll probably change your mind after.
Wow! A sensible man! It's so funny you say those things as I just drove both a F430 and a Gallardo this past weekend. I bolded a few key points that I whole-heartedly agree with. I wouldn't say I hated it, but I can say driving the F430 prior to the Gallardo made the Gallardo seem lame, even in comparison to my last m3! I also expected a lot more from the AWD. The sound is unmatched though. Loved it.
__________________
'15 /// M4 - YMB/SO
'12 E92 ///M3 ZCP - AW/FR - Sold
'05 E46 ///M3 - TiAg/IR- Sold
jc05e46m3 is online now  
Appreciate 0
Reply With Quote
      05-27-2014, 02:27 PM   #14
F1Venom
2
Captain
 
Drives: ZCP E90 M3
Join Date: Apr 2013
Location: USA

Posts: 855
iTrader: (0)

I wouldn't really consider the first gen Gallardo at this point, but they're fairly reliable cars. And if something breaks you can possibly get warrantied by whoever puts on your TT kit. What's the max you're willing to spend? There's a 2009 LP560 for $135k on Cars.com. A few more sub-$140k as well.
F1Venom is offline  
Appreciate 0
Reply With Quote
      05-27-2014, 04:41 PM   #15
khanhdom
0
Lieutenant
 
Drives: E92 M3, E46 M3
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: Houston, TX

Posts: 406
iTrader: (2)

Quote:
Originally Posted by F1Venom View Post
I wouldn't really consider the first gen Gallardo at this point, but they're fairly reliable cars. And if something breaks you can possibly get warrantied by whoever puts on your TT kit. What's the max you're willing to spend? There's a 2009 LP560 for $135k on Cars.com. A few more sub-$140k as well.
I'm not sure on the budget yet, but I said the 1st gen because with the money saved, it can go towards the TT kit, and a couple more mods. I'm getting a hook up on the TT, which is one of the reason why. I do like the face lift of the 2009+ but I could do the face lift conversion. However you might be right and I could save a little bit more to get 2009+. Let me look into that 09 LP560 though, maybe I'll just save my pennies a little bit more
khanhdom is offline  
Appreciate 0
Reply With Quote
      05-27-2014, 08:06 PM   #16
TrevorM3
0
Major
 
Drives: S54
Join Date: Apr 2013
Location: Florida

Posts: 1,408
iTrader: (0)

Definitely can't go wrong with a UGR kit.

I'd definitely try and shoot for an 09 at least.

If you get a pre-face lift you'll have to invest in paintwork etc.. which will cost you.


Buddy of mine just bought a 13' G, rips it pretty hard, no issues. And i've spoken to a few other owners online as well, and they say it is perfect for DD. (If you don't mind the slight rawness of course)
TrevorM3 is offline  
Appreciate 0
Reply With Quote
      05-27-2014, 09:38 PM   #17
khanhdom
0
Lieutenant
 
Drives: E92 M3, E46 M3
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: Houston, TX

Posts: 406
iTrader: (2)

Quote:
Originally Posted by TrevorM3 View Post
Definitely can't go wrong with a UGR kit.

I'd definitely try and shoot for an 09 at least.

If you get a pre-face lift you'll have to invest in paintwork etc.. which will cost you.


Buddy of mine just bought a 13' G, rips it pretty hard, no issues. And i've spoken to a few other owners online as well, and they say it is perfect for DD. (If you don't mind the slight rawness of course)
nice congrats to your buddy. yup been hearing you can daily it and it's a car that's meant to be driven!

any reason why you suggest 09+? i'm still contemplating it and it's pretty much $40k difference. Besides the obvious face lift and the extra .2 liters

with $40k, I can do a bit with the car
khanhdom is offline  
Appreciate 0
Reply With Quote
      05-27-2014, 09:48 PM   #18
TrakBch
0
Captain
 
Drives: Alpine White E92
Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: Dallas, TX

Posts: 687
iTrader: (3)

I was shopping for a 2006 gallardo, price intervals change 5 digits on each incremental year and that seemed like the price break on the factory 500hp cars. I stopped looking when the techs there really recommended the 09 up as. Lots of improvements to the electronics and transmission.

Good luck on your build the turbo ones are just plain nuts. The V10 Lambos are great.
__________________
Scott P. --- PM me if you need a Free CARFAX report
E92 M3 - Track Rental
F80 M3 - The groceries won't get themselves.
Gallardo Superlegerra - Hey! Look @ Me!
TrakBch is offline  
Appreciate 0
Reply With Quote
      05-27-2014, 09:50 PM   #19
khanhdom
0
Lieutenant
 
Drives: E92 M3, E46 M3
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: Houston, TX

Posts: 406
iTrader: (2)

Quote:
Originally Posted by TrakBch View Post
I was shopping for a 2006 gallardo, price intervals change 5 digits on each incremental year and that seemed like the price break on the factory 500hp cars. I stopped looking when the techs there really recommended the 09 up as. Lots of improvements to the electronics and transmission.

Good luck on your build the turbo ones are just plain nuts. The V10 Lambos are great.
thank you Scott. Can you share the improvements the tech told you? I know the egear is much better, but I will be looking for a 6 speed
khanhdom is offline  
Appreciate 0
Reply With Quote
      05-27-2014, 10:02 PM   #20
TrakBch
0
Captain
 
Drives: Alpine White E92
Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: Dallas, TX

Posts: 687
iTrader: (3)

Direct injection, improved 4WD - I think it's full time like the GTR's vs on demand like before (don't quote me on this as it was confusing when this was explained to me since he talked about audi and vw systems in the same context) tweaks to the traction control, cooling system improvements (maybe from the bodywork?) and the car was modestly lighter. And yes, the improvements to the egear.
__________________
Scott P. --- PM me if you need a Free CARFAX report
E92 M3 - Track Rental
F80 M3 - The groceries won't get themselves.
Gallardo Superlegerra - Hey! Look @ Me!
TrakBch is offline  
Appreciate 0
Reply With Quote
      05-27-2014, 11:02 PM   #21
khanhdom
0
Lieutenant
 
Drives: E92 M3, E46 M3
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: Houston, TX

Posts: 406
iTrader: (2)

Quote:
Originally Posted by TrakBch View Post
Direct injection, improved 4WD - I think it's full time like the GTR's vs on demand like before (don't quote me on this as it was confusing when this was explained to me since he talked about audi and vw systems in the same context) tweaks to the traction control, cooling system improvements (maybe from the bodywork?) and the car was modestly lighter. And yes, the improvements to the egear.
thanks bro, going to look into this
khanhdom is offline  
Appreciate 0
Reply With Quote
      05-28-2014, 10:54 AM   #22
UnaBomber
0
Second Lieutenant
 
UnaBomber's Avatar
 
Drives: 2012 X5, 2010 GTR
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: Bluffton, SC

Posts: 241
iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by khanhdom View Post
probably and Dallas Performance is another great shop. I gotta get the car first though lol
Look at topspeed motorsports new kit for them. I drove their TT r8 and it was aboslutely amazing
__________________
2010 Nissan GTR,TopSpeed Motorsports 4 Liter Alpha12
Motec, JRZs, HREs, Alcon SuperKit, Carbon Errything,etc
9.01@164 - 1357whp 1040tq Road Race Prepped Monster
UnaBomber is offline  
Appreciate 0
Reply With Quote
Post Reply

Bookmarks

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 07:36 PM.




m3post
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.7.0
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
1Addicts.com, BIMMERPOST.com, E90Post.com, F30Post.com, M3Post.com, ZPost.com, 5Post.com, 6Post.com, 7Post.com, XBimmers.com logo and trademark are properties of BIMMERPOST