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gadget · 11-28-2007, 03:18 PM

I have the Nav in my Z4 but own and have owned several Japanese cars with Nav as well. The BMW is by far the worst. Specially the actual display and the map drawings. Looks like they were done on MS paint by a 12 year old.

When will BMW offer a more modern display with touch screen and better graphics?

Compared to other cars, BMW's system looks dated.

apw2607 · 11-28-2007, 11:50 PM

The Nav in the Z4 is loosely based on the older style I-BUS NAV architecture BMW originally put in the E38 Series back in 1999! Although its had some upgrades along the way, with improved GUI and map positioning with perspective view, its still pretty poor but functional.

The NAV (part of i-drive) in the E92 M3 is certainly an improvement with new features such as Real Time Traffic Info , dynamic re-routing and improved graphics.

jk111 · 11-30-2007, 10:02 AM

I just bought a new (2007-e93) 320i cabrio with idrive and nav. and I am trying to find out what brand name (alpine, blaupunkt,...) navigation bmw uses in this model. Does anyone know?

apw2607 · 11-30-2007, 08:01 PM

Siemens VDO (now owned by Continental AG) are the system supplier for BMW i-drive/nav

footie · 12-01-2007, 05:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by apw2607

Siemens VDO (now owned by Continental AG) are the system supplier for BMW i-drive/nav

I was just about to post the same thing and then read your post. VDO I believe supply to most european brands.

ericld · 06-27-2008, 12:23 AM

Ever driven a lexus? I have a 2008 RX360 and the M3. BMW is superior.

It's like mac vs PC....the BMW being the mac.

sayemthree · 06-27-2008, 01:28 AM

the NAV in the 2002 M3 sucked bad. the one in my2008 M3 works very well imo. I am happy with it.

Mack211 · 06-27-2008, 10:17 AM

There is a little learning curve but after the first few times using it you get used to how it is set up. I have no complaints except that I wish I could do a search by name on my current location or my destination location. Sometimes I just Google a place on my phone first and get the address.

!Xoible · 06-27-2008, 11:06 AM

BMW navi sucks? i tried that feature but every time i use the voice command "SUCK" it goes "unavailable command please try again"

did u pay extra for it?

PencilGeek · 06-27-2008, 12:22 PM

The 2008 M3 Nav UI sucks so bad, that I got so frustrated and bought the Concierge service for $200 USD. Now I don't have to deal with it, I just click on concierge, and the nice person on the other end does all the work for me.

BTW, there's an entire thread (I started) about how bad this nav unit is.
http://www.m3post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=134792

BMW E90 · 06-27-2008, 05:57 PM

Germans were never known for their electronics so I wasn't that surprised that BMW's navigation isn't up there with Japanese makers such as Honda/Acura.

BlackJetE90 · 06-27-2008, 08:33 PM

Touch screen is most likely the easiest way to use navigation.

But Audi's MMI unit is way better than BMW's idrive. BMW's idrive is still a work in progress.

Who is buying a M3 for navigation anyways, it just happens to come in the Tech Package.

ihyln · 06-27-2008, 10:32 PM

After using iDrive I regret not getting BMW Assist for the concierge service. I'm going to ask the dealer to do a retrofit (punching myself for not getting ZPP)

apw2607 · 06-30-2008, 12:31 AM

BMW Assist with Bluetooth is now a retrofit option.

http://www.bmwtis.com/tsb/bulletins/...p/B841405g.htm

http://www.bmwtis.com/tsb/attachments/B841405_E9x.pdf

gadget · 07-15-2008, 01:27 PM

looks like my original concerns when i stared the thread back in Nov of 07 will be addressed with the new I-drive in 09

11-28-2007, 03:18 PM	#1
gadget Major Drives: 09 e92///M SSII DCT Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: US Posts: 1,182 iTrader: (0)	BMW navi sucks I have the Nav in my Z4 but own and have owned several Japanese cars with Nav as well. The BMW is by far the worst. Specially the actual display and the map drawings. Looks like they were done on MS paint by a 12 year old. When will BMW offer a more modern display with touch screen and better graphics? Compared to other cars, BMW's system looks dated.

06-27-2008, 10:17 AM	#8
Mack211 Lieutenant Drives: 2008 M3 - DCT Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Dallas, TX Posts: 456 iTrader: (0)	There is a little learning curve but after the first few times using it you get used to how it is set up. I have no complaints except that I wish I could do a search by name on my current location or my destination location. Sometimes I just Google a place on my phone first and get the address. __________________ 2008 M3 Space Gray, Black, Syc Ant Wood Trim, DCT 2001 325ci Steel Gray - Sold

06-27-2008, 12:22 PM	#10
PencilGeek Moderator Drives: 2008 M3 6MT Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Far away from you... Posts: 2,622 iTrader: (0) View PencilGeek's Garage	The 2008 M3 Nav UI sucks so bad, that I got so frustrated and bought the Concierge service for $200 USD. Now I don't have to deal with it, I just click on concierge, and the nice person on the other end does all the work for me. BTW, there's an entire thread (I started) about how bad this nav unit is. http://www.m3post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=134792 __________________ Be careful what you wish for... ----- Cosmetic mods: HRE P40. Brembo BBK. Eibach. HRE 540R, Escort 9500ci. BMW Performance Steering Wheel Perf. mods: See Dyno Runs ----- Copyright (c) 2008-2010 Robert R. Collins. Reposting and reprints are not permitted without explicit written permission.

06-27-2008, 10:32 PM	#13
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06-30-2008, 12:31 AM	#14
apw2607 Captain Drives: 2009 X5 35d Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Seattle, WA, USA Posts: 923 iTrader: (0)	BMW Assist with Bluetooth is now a retrofit option. http://www.bmwtis.com/tsb/bulletins/...p/B841405g.htm http://www.bmwtis.com/tsb/attachments/B841405_E9x.pdf Last edited by apw2607; 07-16-2008 at 05:46 PM.

11-28-2007, 11:50 PM	#2
apw2607 Captain Drives: 2009 X5 35d Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Seattle, WA, USA Posts: 923 iTrader: (0)	The Nav in the Z4 is loosely based on the older style I-BUS NAV architecture BMW originally put in the E38 Series back in 1999! Although its had some upgrades along the way, with improved GUI and map positioning with perspective view, its still pretty poor but functional. The NAV (part of i-drive) in the E92 M3 is certainly an improvement with new features such as Real Time Traffic Info , dynamic re-routing and improved graphics.

11-30-2007, 10:02 AM	#3
jk111 New Member Drives: BMW 320i Cabrio Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Greece Posts: 1 iTrader: (0)	I just bought a new (2007-e93) 320i cabrio with idrive and nav. and I am trying to find out what brand name (alpine, blaupunkt,...) navigation bmw uses in this model. Does anyone know?

11-30-2007, 08:01 PM	#4
apw2607 Captain Drives: 2009 X5 35d Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Seattle, WA, USA Posts: 923 iTrader: (0)	Siemens VDO (now owned by Continental AG) are the system supplier for BMW i-drive/nav

06-27-2008, 12:23 AM	#6
ericld Second Lieutenant Drives: 2008 BMW E92 M3, Alpine White Join Date: May 2008 Location: CO Posts: 232 iTrader: (0)	Ever driven a lexus? I have a 2008 RX360 and the M3. BMW is superior. It's like mac vs PC....the BMW being the mac.

06-27-2008, 01:28 AM	#7
sayemthree Brigadier General Drives: ObamieTheKommie Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: ObamaKommieLand Posts: 4,852 iTrader: (0)	the NAV in the 2002 M3 sucked bad. the one in my2008 M3 works very well imo. I am happy with it.

06-27-2008, 11:06 AM	#9
!Xoible Banned Drives: .... Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: . Posts: 1,669 iTrader: (4) View !Xoible's Garage	BMW navi sucks? i tried that feature but every time i use the voice command "SUCK" it goes "unavailable command please try again" did u pay extra for it?

06-27-2008, 05:57 PM	#11
BMW E90 Major General Drives: JB E90 335i Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Around the Bay Posts: 7,505 iTrader: (8)	Germans were never known for their electronics so I wasn't that surprised that BMW's navigation isn't up there with Japanese makers such as Honda/Acura.

06-27-2008, 08:33 PM	#12
BlackJetE90 Major Drives: E90 Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: e90 Posts: 1,067 iTrader: (0)	Touch screen is most likely the easiest way to use navigation. But Audi's MMI unit is way better than BMW's idrive. BMW's idrive is still a work in progress. Who is buying a M3 for navigation anyways, it just happens to come in the Tech Package.

07-15-2008, 01:27 PM	#15
gadget Major Drives: 09 e92///M SSII DCT Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: US Posts: 1,182 iTrader: (0)	looks like my original concerns when i stared the thread back in Nov of 07 will be addressed with the new I-drive in 09