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      06-27-2014, 02:39 PM   #23
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I was at WGI last weekend for a 3 day event with PCA

Ran PCF08 with PFC DD rotors as I usually do. How they brake yet last, with zero brake or pad fade, never ceases to amaze me.

My brother and I track the same car consecutively.
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      06-27-2014, 09:49 PM   #24
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Speaking of pad fade, will slotted rotors fix this issue? But don't they wear out the pads faster?
Nope...slotted won't do much of anything.

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I was at WGI last weekend for a 3 day event with PCA

Ran PCF08 with PFC DD rotors as I usually do. How they brake yet last, with zero brake or pad fade, never ceases to amaze me.

My brother and I track the same car consecutively.
Too many PF08s whores here... PF01 > PF08

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I was at WGI last weekend for a 3 day event with PCA

Ran PCF08 with PFC DD rotors as I usually do. How they brake yet last, with zero brake or pad fade, never ceases to amaze me.

My brother and I track the same car consecutively.
Ha, we met there. Nice to see you here.
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Nope...slotted won't do much of anything.

Blank rotors and 08s it is. Thanks!
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Too many PF08s whores here... PF01 > PF08

Pfffftttttt! I resemble that remark!

If you are going for the HPDE world championship and it's a sprint session, then 01's are the ticket. If, however, you want value for the money and 90% of the initial bite of the 01's with 10x the life, and you are running long sessions, 08's are the clear winner.

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Likewise!
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11s are the replacement for the 01 with their 'modern materials and construction' after over 10 years of pad development since the 01 was introduced.

There are slight differences in initial bite and release characteristics (for the better) but i'd be surprised if many people would be able to differentiate them in a blind test. PFC has discontinued some pad shapes in the 01 all together and i'm sure in time there will be no more 01. The 11 is just a better, modern version. I wouldn't be scared of it.
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11s are the replacement for the 01 with their 'modern materials and construction' after over 10 years of pad development since the 01 was introduced.

There are slight differences in initial bite and release characteristics (for the better) but i'd be surprised if many people would be able to differentiate them in a blind test. PFC has discontinued some pad shapes in the 01 all together and i'm sure in time there will be no more 01. The 11 is just a better, modern version. I wouldn't be scared of it.
Have they improved the pad and rotor wear characteristics? One thing I've noticed is PF01s tend to heat crack the rotors pretty bad compared to Pagid Yellows and even Stoptech SR34s.
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Update:

OEM blank rotors, brake ducting, PFC 08 pads with only 1 day on the fronts and brand new for the rears, and solid metal caliper guides on the fronts w/ ample lubrication.

Performance findings:

Brake torque, bite, and consistence is not like the 01s. 01s just had massive amounts of brake force throughout the braking zone lap after lap, hence allowed me to brake at consistent brake markers.

08s are similar in brake distance ONLY for the first 2-3 laps (while not having the same feel of brake torque, maybe just in my head), but when it gets heated up, I would have to brake about 100-150 ft earlier. 08s don't GIVE UP entirely like some other shitty pads do, but they just maintain the brake force at around 80% even when overheated. Reliable in that sense I guess. I just had to brake slightly earlier but consistency was achieved.

But when I was really pushing with the 08s, they started to vibrate slightly. Manageable, but vibrated and faded a little bit.

08s were okay overall, but considering that they are more expensive than 01s, and that the wear is not much better than 01s (see below), I don't know if they are worth it. I mean, the 01s made me feel like a superman, which now I fully appreciate. (I just can't afford a new set of 01s for EVERY damn event...)

Consumption findings:

Used about 75% of the front left pads in 1 weekend (10x 25min sessions). About 50% used on front right. Both front calipers got twisted pretty badly. (WTF!) More pads were used on the outside pads.

Rears were only used about 10% I would say. No caliper twisting was observed even without the metal bushings.

What I will try next:
DTC 70s with cheapest POS rotors I can get. See how that goes... Hawks are so much cheaper than PFCs. Yes, I hear they eat rotors, but that's why I'm getting the cheapest rotors possible, which actually are cheaper than pads!
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When I used to use blanks they got so hot they practically singed the hair off my leg if I stood up close. Can't be good!
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