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keep the M3 and add a Cayman S 15 25.86%
forget the M3/cayman. Go for the GT3 and a cheap daily beater 43 74.14%
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      03-21-2014, 12:36 PM   #1
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GT3 > e9x m3 + cayman?

Just curious. For you guys with m3s. Would you rather keep your m3 and also add a first gen cayman s in addition to the m3 or give up the m3 and trade up to a 2008 997 gt3 and a cheap beater for commuting?

Is driving a gt3 better overall than having both an m3 and cayman?
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      03-21-2014, 12:43 PM   #2
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I had an e92 M3 for many years and the first time I drove a GT3 I literally fell in love like you couldn't imagine. Drive one and you will see for yourself. I would personally take the GT3 over both those cars. Good luck with whatever route you choose
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      03-21-2014, 12:47 PM   #3
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IMO you would either then have two daily drivers or two weekend type cars (depending on your point of view). I don't think the Cayman is a step up over the M3, even one with all the options for six figures. In fact for a weekend drive I would probably prefer the M3.

I think a GT3 would probably make for a much more special weekend car.

Also what is your definition of a cheap beater? I couldn't imagine stepping down to an econobox during the week from an M3. Has to be decent.
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      03-21-2014, 12:54 PM   #4
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I love the Cayman AND the M3, but I think I'd take the GT3 as that's a once in a lifetime bucket list car (for me anyway)
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What is your track experience? If you aren't an expert, a Cayman S would be a fantastic car to initially work with. If you have been tracking for years and want the ultimate track car and are prepared to spend the money required to keep such a car properly maintained/set up, then the GT3 is the best of the best.
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The 997 GT3 other than the limited ground clearance is usable as a daily driver. the manner in which you approach "go to jail" speed is nearly instant so have to be careful with it.

I would say any one that loves sports cars needs to own a GT3 at point or another. It is very special. On the track its the most involving and challenging drivers car of them all. Its damn near impossible to learn to drive fast in one without crashing so i recommend for anyone that intends to take it to a track but doesn't have much experience to learn in a different car.

i suggest you keep the M3 and get a GT3. thats the best of both worlds. haha.
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buy only one car= Gt3 and daily it. No issues whatsover. How on earth could you downgrade from an M 3 daily to a beater to only drive a Gt3 on weekends? Makes no sense
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I would take the GT3, lol.
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buy only one car= Gt3 and daily it. No issues whatsover. How on earth could you downgrade from an M 3 daily to a beater to only drive a Gt3 on weekends? Makes no sense
One member has that gorgeous violet 997.2 GT3RS and daily's a Prius. So yes it's possible.

And there are plenty reasons why you can't have a GT3 as your only car. I know I certainly couldn't pull it off.
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Before I got M3, I was looking at used GT3.
My child seat did not fit.

Seems like others can fit it real easily according to people in rennlist.

http://forums.rennlist.com/rennforum...lled-pics.html
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GT3 is definitely DDable but I don't think I'd do it from a mileage/depreciation standpoint.
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I have been in the market to purchase an m3, but have always wanted a gt3. I figured getting a cayman would get the sports car bug out of my system if I bought an m3 as my daily.

Regarding the beater it would be a sub $15k car so a used Prius would be an option. Just trying to decide if it makes sense to drive a boring Prius 5 days a week to experience the gt3 on the weekends. Or daily an m3 and make the cayman the weekend car?

I know there is a big difference between a gt3 and cayman but is big enough to drive a Prius instead of an m3 every day ?
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I've actually met a few GT3 --> Cayman converts at the track. I'd drive a Cayman first and see what its about.

Edit: Funny, here's the same discussion elsewhere w/ input from GT3 owners http://forums.rennlist.com/rennforum...997-1-gt3.html
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The 997 GT3 other than the limited ground clearance is usable as a daily driver. the manner in which you approach "go to jail" speed is nearly instant so have to be careful with it.

I would say any one that loves sports cars needs to own a GT3 at point or another. It is very special. On the track its the most involving and challenging drivers car of them all. Its damn near impossible to learn to drive fast in one without crashing so i recommend for anyone that intends to take it to a track but doesn't have much experience to learn in a different car.

i suggest you keep the M3 and get a GT3. thats the best of both worlds. haha.
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I've actually met a few GT3 --> Cayman converts at the track. I'd drive a Cayman first and see what its about.

Edit: Funny, here's the same discussion elsewhere w/ input from GT3 owners http://forums.rennlist.com/rennforum...997-1-gt3.html
LOL, seems to be a common trend.
I like the Camry comment.

All good points...OP, i'd drive both & find out.
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I can relate. I had a c5 z06 before the m3. It had a welded in roll bar and it always had either ra1s or nitto riis. I couldn't enjoy it all the time because I had to drop kids off and I rarely drove it. I drove a 4 cylinder solara most of the time.
I sold it to get the m3 and now I can enjoy driving everyday.
I would get a brz/ or FRS for a daily if a backseat is not a priority. Than get an Elise for track/autox/back road fun.
After experience with a variety of cars on track, autox, etc. I find the lighter cars more fun and rewarding but that's just me.
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i'm waiting for my GT3 to arrive so I'm a little biased...okay maybe really biased...

and while I have driven 911s past and present, I'm expecting the current 991 GT3 to be unlike anything BMW or Porsche has made..

I can't imagine that the current M3 generation can compare..and I have had Caymans and great cars after a fair amount of modding...out of the box I'm expecting the GT3 to be pretty visceral.

So I don't think there is a comparison..but I'll find out when this recall is over!!

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I drive my 997.2 GT3 as DD, I cannot imagine not doing it. I have a BMW for dd, but I haven't been driving it much, it is a 2005 6-series and only has 48K miles on it. The GT3 is a 2010 and it has 38K miles on it. However, if I were you, I'd keep the M3 and get the Cayman S (preferably 987.2 or 981). The attention the GT3 grabs on the road is sometimes overbearing, but I am used it now. An M3 or Cayman are certainly not a GT3, but unless you are comfortable with the depreciation and wear of having it as a DD car, Cayman and M3 are probably better suited for that purpose, particularly over a 997.1 GT3.
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Get the gt3 and ride a unicycle as a dd if you have to.
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GT3 no question. I want a 991 GT3 really, really badly. Maybe during the 991.2 era, I'll be able to afford it.
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I drive my 997.2 GT3 as DD, I cannot imagine not doing it. I have a BMW for dd, but I haven't been driving it much, it is a 2005 6-series and only has 48K miles on it. The GT3 is a 2010 and it has 38K miles on it. However, if I were you, I'd keep the M3 and get the Cayman S (preferably 987.2 or 981). The attention the GT3 grabs on the road is sometimes overbearing, but I am used it now. An M3 or Cayman are certainly not a GT3, but unless you are comfortable with the depreciation and wear of having it as a DD car, Cayman and M3 are probably better suited for that purpose, particularly over a 997.1 GT3.
Do you think the 997 gt3s will experience significant depreciation once Porsche resolves the recall on the 991 gt3? Also, is the gt3 very expensive to maintain with miles?
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Just curious. For you guys with m3s. Would you rather keep your m3 and also add a first gen cayman s in addition to the m3 or give up the m3 and trade up to a 2008 997 gt3 and a cheap beater for commuting?

Is driving a gt3 better overall than having both an m3 and cayman?
It makes no sense to me to spend most of your driving time in a cheap beater if you love to drive. Decide on a budget then split that budget relatively evenly between two cars that will give you different yet equally enjoyable driving experiences. For example, if my total budget was $100k, I might buy an Infiniti Q50 and a 370Z. Or a used Cayman S and new 328.

Just don't buy one spectacular vehicle that you will hardly drive, and another "beater" that you will drive all the time.

This is why I have an S6 (my DD) and an M3. I bought both cars new and built to order. For the same money, I could have bought a used Gallardo and a Nissan Altima as a DD, but then 90% of the time, I would be driving an Altima.
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