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      02-10-2014, 09:02 PM   #45
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Completely agree. We're going as far as to recommend oil samples on every oil change, we keep extra containers here.

I didn't have an exact mileage provided, so it's an estimate we use based on the high side.

Regular oil samples are essentially the closest way to know what's going on inside without tearing apart the engine, possibly giving one a fighting change before something catastrophic happens.
I am sure it is listed somewhere but I couldn't find it. Is there a way to get a Blackstone report done in Canada? I would think shipping oil over the border would be an issue.
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I am sure it is listed somewhere but I couldn't find it. Is there a way to get a Blackstone report done in Canada? I would think shipping oil over the border would be an issue.
Don't think it should be. Could have sworn I've seen Canadian members do it before. Maybe give them a call and ask. The container you send in is tiny so shipping expensive wouldn't be the issue.
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Congrats! We need more BMW dealerships like this around.
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That is great news, I'm happy for you.
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Who what would be elevated on the newer bearings without lead?

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Where is the onus on the op when he didn't buy a warranty yet expects goodwill from BMW? And a warranty! I mean I'm happy for you but at same time isn't this the risk you take?
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I am sure it is listed somewhere but I couldn't find it. Is there a way to get a Blackstone report done in Canada? I would think shipping oil over the border would be an issue.
I already did mine and shipped it via UPS. No problems. I think it cost me an additional $20 or so to ship.
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Where is the onus on the op when he didn't buy a warranty yet expects goodwill from BMW? And a warranty! I mean I'm happy for you but at same time isn't this the risk you take?
No one expects "goodwill" repairs from BMW. We expect them to do their damn job properly and not design engines that self destruct far sooner than they have any right to. especially when they charge us an arm and a leg to buy their cars.
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No one expects "goodwill" repairs from BMW. We expect them to do their damn job properly and not design engines that self destruct far sooner than they have any right to. especially when they charge us an arm and a leg to buy their cars.
exactly, an engine that is properly maintained and fails at 53,000 miles (some much lower) with this kind of damage is inexcusable and should be fully covered by BMW. I would hope that could be expected from this company. I'm sure I'm starting a war and some will say "Hey, it's a very small percentage of engines that failed so clearly it's not an issue" I disagree, I think this is an issue and should be covered by any dealer. To have an identical failure even on a small percentage of engines is an issue. Sadly, I think for whatever reason, that we all can not expect to have the same results as the OP with BMWNA being as generous. I'm actually shocked at his results with them. With my 24ppm lead and an extended warranty expiring next year, I'll be watching my oil reports closely.
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most definitely!

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They know there is a problem. They would not be giving out free engines if not.
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      02-10-2014, 11:22 PM   #55
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exactly...it's called doing the right thing as a business

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Congrats OP - more than likely BMW will cover any such failures especially considering that other lawsuit they ended up paying out.

Problem is we are still leaving it to chance hoping they will goodwill in case of failure, what if they don't and one has no warranty? We need to find a way to take control, away from BMW, of this situation. Class Action ???
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Congrats OP. This thread got me concerned I have E93 2008 with 32K miles how do I know if I have a rod bearing problem? and what oil should we use now? Tx
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      02-10-2014, 11:47 PM   #58
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Who what would be elevated on the newer bearings without lead?

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702/703 bearings are of an aluminized tin/silicon compound.

So I'd assume elevated tin.

See the post linked below
http://www.m3post.com/forums/showpos...71&postcount=7
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Congrats OP. This thread got me concerned I have E93 2008 with 32K miles how do I know if I have a rod bearing problem? and what oil should we use now? Tx
keep track of the metal wear levels in your blackstone reports, looks like early signs are mostly lead. Lead will progress into other metals (iron, copper)
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Where is the onus on the op when he didn't buy a warranty yet expects goodwill from BMW? And a warranty! I mean I'm happy for you but at same time isn't this the risk you take?

What? I was willing to pay an independent shop to *fix* my problem. Once they found out it was worse than quoted, that's a faulty part on BMW's behalf. Is it my responsibility to be penalized for a faulty part when I was willing to spend sub $2,000 to fix an issue I knew was not due to my driving habits? I didn't expect a goodwill, they offered this. I was not demanding nor expecting, just bringing them attention to my experience.
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Where is the onus on the op when he didn't buy a warranty yet expects goodwill from BMW? And a warranty! I mean I'm happy for you but at same time isn't this the risk you take?
Has there been a successful rod bearings claim under extended warranty you can point us to?
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Nice hearing things like this. Glad BMW stepped up and took care of you.
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Congrats man, glad to see bmw resolving the issue.
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Great story! Happy to hear BMW came through!
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Where is the onus on the op when he didn't buy a warranty yet expects goodwill from BMW? And a warranty! I mean I'm happy for you but at same time isn't this the risk you take?
A failed rod bearing at 55,000 miles is indicative of faulty design. BMW needs to step up to the plate like they did on the e46 and recall the bearings and extend the engine warranty to 10 years.

In lieu of that, offering goodwill repair and extending warranties on a case by case basis seems reasonable to me.

Saying the OP should be responsible for a BMW manufacturing defect is BS.
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