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      01-20-2014, 04:29 AM   #1
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Is there anyway to see if my car has a tune from previous owner?

Bought a car and just wanted to know if anything was done to the car. Am i just going to have to go to bmw?

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      01-20-2014, 06:11 AM   #2
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I wouldn't go to BMW… cause if they find one, they can mark that the car was tuned

i would ask a local tuner/shop to check the ECU
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      01-20-2014, 08:46 AM   #3
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^^ just stop by your local tuner (most reps won't care, and would probably ignore, but you never know...)

There are some members here with 100K miles tuned, so I wouldn't be to worried about buying a tuned M if it was done by someone reputable, and everything was maintained properly...
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      01-20-2014, 12:12 PM   #4
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I wouldn't go to BMW cause if they find one, they can mark that the car was tuned

i would ask a local tuner/shop to check the ECU
Sage advice.
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      01-20-2014, 12:26 PM   #5
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Paging Mike Benvo. He could check for you remotely by mailing you the necessary cable and then remoting into a VM that you'd set up on your machine, though whether he finds one or not, I'm betting he'll offer to sell you his tune.
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      01-20-2014, 05:16 PM   #6
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ill buy his tune, where is he and how much. as long as its a good tune then no worry's. can someone give me his info. thanks
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      01-20-2014, 05:25 PM   #7
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      01-20-2014, 06:44 PM   #8
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ill buy his tune, where is he and how much. as long as its a good tune then no worry's. can someone give me his info. thanks
His nickname on the forums is literally Mike Benvo. Contact info is in his signature, and his site is www.bpmsport.com. There are lots of people offering tunes here, including Evolve as mentioned above. You can do your own research on what you find best. I will say that I see more positive reviews of people switching to Benvo's tune from other tunes (including Evolve and Dinan) than switching away from Benvo's tune to anything else.

He lives in LA but he can do all of his work remotely as long as you have a machine capable of running a VMware VM, which he remotes into after he ships you the appropriate cable to hook up to your car.
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1,000 a tune?? wow thats alot. i only want cold start disable and maybe side mirror up.
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      01-20-2014, 08:45 PM   #10
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1,000 a tune?? wow thats alot. i only want cold start disable and maybe side mirror up.
The side mirror thing is coding, not tuning, which is cheaper. I code for free, but not remotely. Cold start would be part of an engine tune, but yeah $1000 is a bit steep if that's all you want as opposed to the performance changes.
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      01-20-2014, 11:05 PM   #11
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Depending on what's loaded to the car, it's unlikely that the dealer would be able to tell even if you asked them to check

You can always mail your DME to us with same day turn around time to save on costs.
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      01-21-2014, 02:49 AM   #12
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1,000 a tune?? wow thats alot. i only want cold start disable and maybe side mirror up.
$1000 is steep for coding, but perfectly reasonable for a tune.

Cold Start disable will require a tune (as previously stated), so that won't be as cheap as coding.


I know EAS also does coding, but not sure if they do it remotely…
tom@europeanautosource.com

I know Alex@Alpine can do it as well and I believe he does indeed do it remotely.
alex@alpinemss.com
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      01-21-2014, 07:28 AM   #13
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i contacted mike and another sponsor, lets see how much its going to run me. ill call them today if no response to email lol.
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      01-21-2014, 08:33 AM   #14
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Bought a car and just wanted to know if anything was done to the car. Am i just going to have to go to bmw?

thank guys

Side note- if you have a coil puller tool plese let me borrow it, ill pay!!!
Most tuners are able to now implement a no read function through OBDII.

If it's tuned in that way the only option is to simply over write and update to the latest 240E version + tune.

It could well have an old tune on it. Most tuners won't care what's on the DME, they will simply overwrite with the latest firmware and deliver their calibration.

Email around asking for deals on coding + tuning and what functions are available and base your opinion on what ever is important to you as a potential customer.
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      01-21-2014, 08:39 AM   #15
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Thanks guys this forum has already been so helpful.
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1,000 a tune?? wow thats alot. i only want cold start disable and maybe side mirror up.
Do you have a catless exhaust set up? If you don't then there is no sense doing a cold start disable... if you do and you don't have a CEL, then there is a decent chance you are already tuned although not certain.
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Do you have a catless exhaust set up? If you don't then there is no sense doing a cold start disable... if you do and you don't have a CEL, then there is a decent chance you are already tuned although not certain.
If the deCAT is done and there is not engine light with no codes referring to cat efficiency then there is some type of tune on there.
It can be as little as just deleting the codes and nothing else.

The codes with a deCAT without fail should be:

2789 and 278A - Catalytic Converter Efficiency Bank 1 and 2.
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      01-21-2014, 10:00 AM   #18
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Do you have a catless exhaust set up? If you don't then there is no sense doing a cold start disable... if you do and you don't have a CEL, then there is a decent chance you are already tuned although not certain.
I did a cold start disable and I still have stock cats. The GT2 exhaust was so freaking loud it would shake the house, which is why I opted to disable the cold-start feature.
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I did a cold start disable and I still have stock cats. The GT2 exhaust was so freaking loud it would shake the house, which is why I opted to disable the cold-start feature.
thats also why i wanted to do it.
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thats also why i wanted to do it.
The cold start delete is night and day different and I would highly recommend it if you have a loud exhaust to begin with.
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I am just struggling with doing an tune at that price since I drove a 2010 with an ESS tune and there was no meaningful difference in power. Car drove a little smoother but def not worth 1k in my opinion. Looks like I will save a little longer and just supercharge.
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I am just struggling with doing an tune at that price since I drove a 2010 with an ESS tune and there was no meaningful difference in power. Car drove a little smoother but def not worth 1k in my opinion. Looks like I will save a little longer and just supercharge.
those pot holes are going to be coming at you a whole lot faster
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