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      01-17-2014, 08:34 PM   #199
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I'm guessing the price of the new Z06 will be north of $100k. The C6 ZR1 was, and this car is superior in every way.
It's noted in this thread a couple times and in the GM video that if you can afford a current Z06 you can afford this one. It says a fully optioned model will be under 100k.
Thats just amazing. Knowing this its hard to order the new Ms.
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Is passing one on the track an option?
Anything is possible when you're an experienced driver. Equally experienced, doubt it
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Anything is possible when you're an experienced driver. Equally experienced, doubt it
im okay with finding a newb and showing him my fender on entry and hounding them until a mistake is made.
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Why?

I am seriously considering a Corvette after seeing both the M4 and Z06. I have been waiting for this new M unveil for more than 3 years now and believe it or not ever since seeing Corvette, I can't keep my eyes off of it. In fact, I am reading more about Corvette in NAIAS than the new Ms. Not kidding. The specs of the Z06 is just unbelievable and the exterior is amazing.
I ment no disrespect at all. But how can you call new m3/4 a joke. Its going to be a great car in every way. It cant be compared to this beast z06, simply because they are built for different purposes and are in a different league in performance department. I wish i could have new m4 as a DD and new z as a track/weekend warrior. We will see.
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Blasphemy! Bet there's still lot to do if used as track car.
Like what? Parachute for better stopping power?
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      01-18-2014, 12:33 PM   #204
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im okay with finding a newb and showing him my fender on entry and hounding them until a mistake is made.
I'm with you on this one
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I ment no disrespect at all. But how can you call new m3/4 a joke. Its going to be a great car in every way. It cant be compared to this beast z06, simply because they are built for different purposes and are in a different league in performance department. I wish i could have new m4 as a DD and new z as a track/weekend warrior. We will see.
to me the new m car is a joke because they put a 3.0L engine in it. how can i go from a 8400RPM V8 to that ?

would rather get a corvette.
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INSANE!!! Chevy has stepped up their game while some have been slumbering.
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For those that had not seen this in another thread..".hear "the exhaust sound of the ZO6

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For those that had not seen this in another thread..".hear "the exhaust sound of the ZO6

Wow, kinda sounds like cold start on my M3 with exhaust mod
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This car was even Badder In Person! IMO Best car in show, the M's where alright, BUT Nothing on this thing.
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Why?

I am seriously considering a Corvette after seeing both the M4 and Z06. I have been waiting for this new M unveil for more than 3 years now and believe it or not ever since seeing Corvette, I can't keep my eyes off of it. In fact, I am reading more about Corvette in NAIAS than the new Ms. Not kidding. The specs of the Z06 is just unbelievable and the exterior is amazing.
I ment no disrespect at all. But how can you call new m3/4 a joke. Its going to be a great car in every way. It cant be compared to this beast z06, simply because they are built for different purposes and are in a different league in performance department. I wish i could have new m4 as a DD and new z as a track/weekend warrior. We will see.
The new m3/m4 is an amazing car of course. But the looks literally are killing me compared to the current M3. The new M's for the price it will be is a great profit but why would you get them with that money you could just buy an 09-11 Gtr. You're coming from a beautiful s65 engine to something a 335 would have. And no disrespect to bmw but damn do I not see the new Ms as special as what they use to be. The M brand is more of a market name rather than what it use to be. Every car has M symbols all over it now. What happened to the M being an M and not some market brand show off. Idk that's just my opinion.
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Yea the new turdbro M4 has been scratched off my list for a new car next year. Keep in mind BMW makes their stock exhausts sound horrible on purpose to make you spend additional thousands on an "M-Performance" exhaust and with a 3.0L I6 how good can it really sound coming from an M3 V8?

This C7 Z06 will be more than enough for me to handle in stock form and I wont have to worry about mods.
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Yea the new turdbro M4 has been scratched off my list for a new car next year. Keep in mind BMW makes their stock exhausts sound horrible on purpose to make you spend additional thousands on an "M-Performance" exhaust and with a 3.0L I6 how good can it really sound coming from an M3 V8?

This C7 Z06 will be more than enough for me to handle in stock form and I wont have to worry about mods.
Yeah, right.
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Yea the new turdbro M4 has been scratched off my list for a new car next year. Keep in mind BMW makes their stock exhausts sound horrible on purpose to make you spend additional thousands on an "M-Performance" exhaust and with a 3.0L I6 how good can it really sound coming from an M3 V8?

This C7 Z06 will be more than enough for me to handle in stock form and I wont have to worry about mods.
The new turdbro M4.....LMFAO !
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I'm rather surprised there are so many people who cross shop these two vehicles. I've never considered the M3 a top tier sports car, just REALLY close to one with a lot more practicality, as much as I need.

It's not like this is the first corvette to be better on the track or have more power than the M3. I just don't get it?!?!
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Like what? Parachute for better stopping power?
That's not a bad idea. Probably upgraded pads, harness, harness bar, brake fluid, wheels, tires. Every car needs something even this one.
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That looks sexy

I may have to consider this as an additional car
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I'm rather surprised there are so many people who cross shop these two vehicles. I've never considered the M3 a top tier sports car, just REALLY close to one with a lot more practicality, as much as I need.

It's not like this is the first corvette to be better on the track or have more power than the M3. I just don't get it?!?!
Because the Corvette now finally has a really nice interior, great seats, modern creature comforts and techno gadgets (Performance Data Recorder anyone??), better external styling, and solid build quality. GM delivered all that, and they did it without raising the price by much at all on the Stingray. And the new Z06 looks to be adding all of those perks AND a huge horsepower boost and STILL won't bump the price up much. That changes the game dramatically because the Corvette is no longer a "fantastic performance if you're willing to compromise on everything else" proposition.

Now the decision is between a top tier sports car with a fair amount of DD practicality (though still limited because of the two seats) or a very good sports car with lots of practicality. It just depends on which of those two elements you want/need to prioritize more. I didn't cross shop a Z06 when I bought my M3, but I absolutely would now.

I think there's also an element at play of expectations/hopes compared to what was delivered with each car. The new M3/4 doesn't immediately seem as special compared to the base cars as the E9x did, and to some the loss of the V8 means that the new car doesn't even seem as special as the previous M3 (though that may change post-launch judging by the impressions of people who went from an E60 M5 to an F10). But meanwhile, the new base Stingray SURPASSED expectations, turning out leagues better than people were expecting, and now the Z06 has surpassed expectations by an even greater margin, coming in significantly different both from the base car and the previous Z06.

The only things I really like about the new M3/4 are the weight reduction and the HUD, but I wouldn't trade my V8 for those even if it were free to upgrade, never mind paying to do so. I don't care how much more torque and speed the new M3/4 will have over mine, there's something sublime about a V8, especially on a track and especially when it's a high-revving unit. There's more to what makes a car enjoyable than how fast it can go.
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