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      09-02-2016, 12:43 AM   #1
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Brake pad recos: light track, mostly street

I've been doing some research and it seems like the best way to go between street and track is to have a separate pad for both. Honestly, I have never seriously tracked and want to start getting into it a little more, but for now I will maybe do two track days a year.

Do you all think something like a Hawk HPS would work? Would something like an Akebono ceramic hold up to a day or two of track? I will likely eventually move to a dedicated track pad or BBK down the road, but with two young kids I don't have the time to commit to that just yet. I should replace my pads soon and if there is something out there that will meet my needs I want to get that now. If not, I will likely run Akebonos for street now and purchase a track pad when I'm ready to start some serious driving.

Thanks for any input you have!
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You need to define what "light track" means.

Even if you go once per year, if you run the car hard enough on that day, you will either totally burn through street pads or get bad deposits that create a bad vibration which will likely ruin your day.

If "light track" means you won't be pushing the car hard, then yes, most pads will work.
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Hawk says flat-out that the HPS is not for track use. The Akebono Ceramic would be no better.

The only brake pad that I would even consider for "light" track use on the stock brakes would be the Ferodo DS2500, and that's only if I had good fluid and was keeping a close watch on the brakes during my sessions.
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Thanks guys. I'm starting to think it best to go with two separate pads.
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Thanks guys. I'm starting to think it best to go with two separate pads.

If you get a BBK, pad swaps are ultra-fast. It takes me more time to jack up the car and remove the wheel than it does to remove the pads. It's literally two bolts on the StopTech ST40.

Then again, the ST40 has run so cool that I haven't needed a more aggressive pad...yet.
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If you get a BBK, pad swaps are ultra-fast. It takes me more time to jack up the car and remove the wheel than it does to remove the pads. It's literally two bolts on the StopTech ST40.

Then again, the ST40 has run so cool that I haven't needed a more aggressive pad...yet.
Really? I didn't realize that. I've actually been looking at the STs. A buddy of mine has them and has nothing but good things to say. Ugh this hobby is getting quite expensive
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Ugh this hobby is getting quite expensive
The initial investment isn't cheap, but in the long run the economics are typically really good. It will come down to how much racing you plan to do and what your time is worth. I
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Stoptech StreetSport is the best combo pad I've found.
You do need to bed them in well.
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Stoptech StreetSport is the best combo pad I've found.
You do need to bed them in well.
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thanks!
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Stoptech StreetSport is the best combo pad I've found.
You do need to bed them in well.
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This is the standard pad they include with their BBKs. It has worked fine for me for dual-duty, but I will be replacing them with Ferodo DS2500s as soon as they are worn out.
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This is the standard pad they include with their BBKs. It has worked fine for me for dual-duty, but I will be replacing them with Ferodo DS2500s as soon as they are worn out.
Let us know how they work out.
I drove around for a few days on Stoptech R32 and they were way too loud. My buddy was on R34's for a couple days and they seemed much quieter but still made noise.
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Let us know how they work out.
I drove around for a few days on Stoptech R32 and they were way too loud. My buddy was on R34's for a couple days and they seemed much quieter but still made noise.
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I wouldn't use either of those pads on the street. They are race pads.
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I've had good luck using Endless MX72 brake pads. They are able to handle more heat than the DS2500. Noise free on the street like the DS2500. Like all hybrid pads though, they will overheat if you push it beyond its limits.
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I've had good luck using Endless MX72 brake pads. They are able to handle more heat than the DS2500. Noise free on the street like the DS2500. Like all hybrid pads though, they will overheat if you push it beyond its limits.
That is going to be my next pad I think. That or the ME20. Although I don't get to the track much, I don't drive my car much in general, so I would shade more toward a track-capable pad than a street one.
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I've tracked twice on my StopTech Street Performance pads (stock brakes except for stainless lines and Motul RBF600 fluid) which I also use for daily driving. They worked fine on the track, granted I would have to brake a little earlier as the session went on...and on the street of course, they perform great!
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That is going to be my next pad I think. That or the ME20. Although I don't get to the track much, I don't drive my car much in general, so I would shade more toward a track-capable pad than a street one.
The ME20 looks almost identical in terms of spec. The Endless page doesn't say much about it either. Maybe it holds better at high temps?
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EDIT. sorry. I thought I was reading a F80 thread on my prior reply.

Cobalt XR series for track pads for the E9X stock calipers.

Require no bedding and the transfer layers play nice with other compounds. so you can swap between your street and track pads with little penalty.

Stock calipers are a pain for quick swaps back and forth. so yeah on a E9X a BBK is worth it just for the time saved in pad swaps.
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pagid sport from Turner also seems like a good candidate.
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pagid sport from Turner also seems like a good candidate.

I thought those were not rated for track use at all? (like the Hawk HPS)
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