michelin pilot sport cup + on 19"

markjenz · 10-18-2007, 05:37 AM

latest info from m-gmbh garching:

19" cars in germany will be equipped with cup+ tyres regardles of drivers package. the only reason why actually released cars still come with ordinary ps2 tyres is that m-gmbh has logistic problems / not enough new cup+ in stock....the problem will be solved latest with beginning of 2008

so great info for all 19" drivers!

13eastie · 10-18-2007, 05:50 AM

Just to calrify, does this apply only to German customers?

K3N R3D · 10-18-2007, 08:31 AM

Thanx for the clarification.

mkoesel · 10-18-2007, 08:49 AM

Where can I read details of these tires and differences between Pilot Sport Cup? Google is of no help, at least from what my cursory search revealed.

GregW / Oregon · 10-18-2007, 09:27 AM

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Originally Posted by mkoesel

Where can I read details of these tires and differences between Pilot Sport Cup? Google is of no help, at least from what my cursory search revealed.

Note that they are only rated "80" for wear.

http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires....ilot+Sport+Cup

http://www.michelinman.com/tires/ult...lot-sport-cup/

mkoesel · 10-18-2007, 09:34 AM

Greg, I saw that info, but that's for Pilot Sport Cup (no "+"), right?

Am I mistaken or are the "+" actually a new, different tire (better wet traction?)?

ILC32 · 10-18-2007, 09:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by markjenz

latest info from m-gmbh garching:

19" cars in germany will be equipped with cup+ tyres regardles of drivers package. the only reason why actually released cars still come with ordinary ps2 tyres is that m-gmbh has logistic problems / not enough new cup+ in stock....the problem will be solved latest with beginning of 2008

so great info for all 19" drivers!

Great info. Thanks!

K3N R3D · 10-18-2007, 09:59 AM

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Originally Posted by GregW / Oregon

Note that they are only rated "80" for wear.

http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires....ilot+Sport+Cup

http://http://www.michelinman.com/ti...lot-sport-cup/

I'm not sure but I dont think tirerack sells the Michilin Sport Cup+ Tires with the same dimensions it comes with on the E92. I tried to find one with the same dimensions once time, but could not find it. I thought that was kinda weird.

southlight · 10-18-2007, 10:40 AM

Thanks for that information, Mark!

Quote:

Originally Posted by 13eastie

Just to calrify, does this apply only to German customers?

According to my information (which now seems to be true again) this applies for all cars in the European Union.

Best regards, south

GregW / Oregon · 10-18-2007, 11:24 AM

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Originally Posted by mkoesel

Greg, I saw that info, but that's for Pilot Sport Cup (no "+"), right?

Am I mistaken or are the "+" actually a new, different tire (better wet traction?)?

Sorry, missed tjhe "+". Don't see them listed on the Michelin website, though.

swamp2 · 10-18-2007, 01:29 PM

This is good news for the ring times and means that BMW/Sportauto can not be charged with a "switch-aroo". I doubt US cars will come equipped this way.

Romo · 10-18-2007, 01:57 PM

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Originally Posted by southlight

Thanks for that information, Mark!

According to my information (which now seems to be true again) this applies for all cars in the European Union.

Best regards, south

Don`t like it. These are tires for race conditions, not for standart road trips, aspecialy not for bad weather conditions.
Just give me the normal PS, that will do fine IMO

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13eastie Lieutenant Drives: 2007 E92 M3 Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: London Posts: 563 iTrader: (0) Garage List 2007 E92 M3 Coupé S ... [0.00]	Just to calrify, does this apply only to German customers?