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      10-16-2013, 03:16 AM   #1
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Lightbulb Upcoming BMW model pipeline - from F39 and G02 to G20 and beyond

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This thread contains the information about future production plans compiled by me from various leaks within BMW organization.

This top post is continuously updated: everything that becomes official is deleted, new research is added.

FAQ:

Can you guarantee that all of these models will come to market?
- No.

Can you tell me where you found this info?
- No.

Upcoming new models:

- These are just US market models, EU is simply too varied to type in all combinations.
- Model years marked with (?) are only best guesses.

2018 F39 X2
- sDrive28i
- xDrive28i

2019 I12 i8 LCI

2019 I15 i8 Roadster

2019 G01 X3
- sDrive30i
- xDrive30e
- xDrive30d

2019 G02 X4
- xDrive30i
- xDrive M40i

2019 G29 Z4
- sDrive30i
- sDrive M40i

2019 F39 X2
- xDrive M35i

2019 G05 X5
- sDrive40i
- xDrive40i
- xDrive40d
- xDrive40e
- xDrive50i

2019 G07 X7
- xDrive40i
- xDrive40d
- xDrive50i

2019 G14/G15 8er
- 840i
- 840i xDrive
- 850i xDrive

2019 (?) G30 5er
- 540d xDrive (questionable)

2019 i3
- 120
- 120 REX

2019 G20 3er (choice of sDrive or xDrive for all models)
- 320i (questionable)
- 330i
- 330d (questionable)
- 330e
- M340i

2020 G11/G12 LCI - March 2019

2020 F97 X3 M

2020 F98 X4 M

2020 F95 X5 M

EOP for current models:

F26 X4 - 03/18

F12 6er - 06/18
F06 6GC - 02/19

F15 X5 - 07/18
F16 X6 - 07/19

F30 3er - 10/18
F80 M3 - 10/18
F31 3er - 06/19
F32 4er - 06/20
F82 M4 - 06/20
F34 3GT - 07/20
F36 4GC - 07/20
F33 4er - 10/20
F83 M4 - 10/20

F22 2er - 10/21
F23 2er - 10/21

F48 X1 - 06/22

G30 5er - 10/23

G01 X3 - 11/23

G32 6GT - 06/24

2016 updates:
  • F97 X3M (G01 based) and F98 X4M (G02 based) are coming.
  • Just like Scott promised, no more wagons for this side of the pond. You want a Touring - grab an F31 while you still can. I have.
  • The next M5, X5M, and X6M will all get the same engine, S63B44T4. Note that the latest production iteration of this engine is T2. My best guess for the reasons for skipping T3 is that T3 did exist, but the engineers went further and made a still better version.
  • For 2018 BMW X2, these are the more interesting options that we don't have on X1: 19" RFT or 20" non-RFT with M Sport, adaptive suspension (likely as a part of M Sport), Galvanic Gold paint, Guidance Package.
  • Production codes for the next 1 and 2: F40, F41, G42, G43, F44. I wonder why the coupe and the convertible are G while the rest are F...
  • Actually, I know that the last couple of months y'all have been waiting for something else. Well, your prayers have finally been answered: I can confirm that M2 CS will differ from the regular M2 in exactly the way you wanted. Though it'll be slightly detuned compared to M3/M4, to 400hp. M2 Competition is MY2019, coming in calendar year 2018.
  • Despite recent rumors, there will be an 8 GC. For starters, there will be the same 840i, 850i, and non-US 830d and 840d as with G14 and G15.
  • i8 LCI should add ~15hp.

January 2017
The following comes from a new unverified source, so please don't give it as much trust as to my previous reports. Still, to me it seems plausible, so worth posting.
  • EU 530i and 520d EffDyn will have a shorter production run than other G30s - up to 06/18. The assumption is they will be re-engined (this matches with the rumors of B48 TU coming out at G20 introduction).
  • Under the same assumption, 540i, M550i, and US 530i will be re-engined in 07/19. I find it interesting that US is again going to be one year behind EU with 4-cyl replacement.
  • 530e will continue until at least 06/20.
  • EU 325d and 425d will end production in 02/18 (again, likely new engine)
  • G11/G12 LCI starts production in March 2019.
The next four items are repeated from previous leaks, but this is an independent source, and when two sources say the same thing, it can hardly be called a rumor anymore
  • F30 EOP is 10/18:
  • F31 EOP is 06/19 (if you want a new custom order BMW wagon, don't delay past April 2019!)
  • F32 EOP is 06/20
  • F33 EOP is 10/20
  • F34 and F36 EOP now seems to be 07/20 (that is, F34 will have a longer than expected run, while F36 production will be cut short). This date is actually very unusual: BMW EOPs all its Germany-made models in February, June, or October. The best explanation I have is that their production will be moved from Dingolfing to Mexico.
  • G30 EOP is 10/23, so it will have the customary 7 year run.
  • F48 EOP is 06/22
  • F60 EOP is 10/23
  • F26 EOP is now 03/18 (so G02 SOP will be 04/18)
  • F15 EOP is confirmed 07/18 (G05 SOP 08/18)
  • F16 EOP is confirmed 07/19 (G06 SOP 08/19)
  • i3 LCI SOP 11/17
  • i8 LCI SOP 03/18

February 2017
  • I15 i8 Roadster should become available around the same time as I12 i8 LCI, as a MY2019.
  • I mentioned a long time ago that Minis would get DCT at some point. That point now appears to be the LCI coming for F55/F56 later this year.

March 2017
  • M8: F91 Cab, F92 Coupe, F93 GC. Coming in 2019-2020.
  • Corrected EOP dates for F12 and F13: moved from 10/18 to 06/18.
  • F97 X3M will start production as a MY2020 vehicle (expect early 2019 intro) and will debut S58 making 450-460hp.
  • RR Cullinan is tentatively SOP 08/20.
  • F48 LCI SOP 07/20

April 2017
  • It's now confirmed that the US 30d models (next 3 series and X3) will in fact have the same engine as the European 20d models.
  • In future models, M Sport package will include a different exhaust system.
  • New colors with the intro of G02 X4: Terra Brown (C1L) and Sun Stone (C1M).

July 2017
  • Current EOP for G01 is November 2023, which means a shorter than usual 6 years and 4 months run. Both gas models will get TU engines in August 2019.
  • In a year or so the electric range of the i3 will be bumped to approximately double of the original version.
(Like I warned earlier, my source is now almost dry.)

August 2017
  • Like X3M, F98 X4M is scheduled for MY2020, with market launch either simultaneous with F97, or a very short period of time apart.
  • M4 CS production will end no later than 06/19 (a full year before the scheduled EOP for the standard M4).
  • Since the G2x platform has been confirmed to have both G24 and G26 codes, the rumored merge of 4GC and 3GT may not actually happen. I still believe Mexico will be their primary assembly plant.
Now, something new to this series: future engine lineup. This is likely not comprehensive, but should still cover a lot of ground and give you a good idea of what to expect in the future. I believe the timeframe covered by this information is 3 years, maybe 4, so each statement below that says "will happen" or "won't happen" should be read as "will/won't happen in the next three years". Also note the absence of any mention of hybrid or electric engines - I don't have a good enough picture to talk about those.
  • B37 will not get any major updates in RWD models anytime soon. The transverse (FWD) version has a TU planned. No new versions are planned.
  • B38 will get TU for all existing versions (starting with the recently updated F48 sDrive18i), with the exception of the 1.2L one and the one that goes into i8. No new versions are planned.
  • B47 is simple: TU for all versions with the exception of longitudinal 16d (will be dropped?)
  • B48 is starting to get its first TU (now available in Europe in F48 sDrive20i). The TU version will soon find its way into more UKL models, and then we'll see it in the CLAR cars, either with 07/18 "model upgrade measures" in G30, or at G20 intro. The only new version of this engine currently planned is the one that will go into UKL M35i, B48A20T1. The longitudinal versions will remain limited to 20i (B48B20M1) and 30i (B48B20O1).
  • B57 - TU for 30d and 40d, but not 50d.
  • B58 will get a TU (probably mid-2019), and with the TU will come a new version, B58B30O1. Note that up until now, all models, even the highest output X3 M40i, have been using the M0 version of this engine. O1 will probably take us even closer to 400hp, and I won't be surprised to see new model names (M45i? though don't quote me on this).
  • N63 is currently in its third iteration (TU2), and there will be the fourth one (TU3) that will add two new versions, one below (M3) and one above (T3) of the current O2 (to be succeeded by O3). This actually looks somewhat illogical to me, since the future top version of B58 and the future bottom version of N63 should end up really close to each other in output. I suspect one of them may not actually happen.
  • N74 used in the brand new Phantom is actually one iteration ahead of the one in M760i (TU2 vs TU1) in addition to being bigger (6.8L vs 6.6L). M760i will catch up with its own TU2 soon, but there will also be something new, probably RR specific (Cullinan Black Badge?): N74B68M2.
  • S55 will not get a TU, but will be replaced by S58 (full name S58B30T0), as we already know.
  • S63 just got its newest upgrade in F90. It's going to stick around for a while.

September 2017
  • 8 series news: market intro summer 2018. Many things we saw in the concept are going into production, the mad instrument cluster and laser lights are some of them. A standout option (something we never had as an actual selectable option) is CF roof available with M Sport. Engines are a mixed bag: diesels seem to be carried over from current models, but lucky for us here we don't care for diesels, what matters is the 850i (note the absence of "M"): the revised N63 will produce well over 500hp. This should make most people happy, I think.
  • B48TU in 30i vehicles will get a small power increase to 255hp. This is the engine G20 330i will come with.
  • Speaking of G20, it's getting all the cool toys we've seen or only heard about. The same new instrument panel as the 8, special diff included with ZMP, ambient light, laser lights (even US cars), significantly improved autonomous driving capabilities, etc. A totally unexpected addition is remote engine start. But overall, interior quality and equipment are going to match or exceed the new X3.
  • B58TU will also get a small power increase to 335hp in non-M 40i versions. We'll see it in G05 first.
  • N63 version used in G05/G06 will output 465hp. This is a new revision of N63, which means G05 won't have any legacy gas engines.
  • S63 may get a small power bump in F95/F96 compared to F90. Really small.
  • G05 X5: same toys again: the new instrument panel, optional laser lights (LED standard), and it looks like M Sport will come with 21" or 22" wheels. Which I think is crazy.
  • F95 X5 M is confirmed as MY2020. 2019 is going to be very busy for M cars.
  • i3 with the 120Ah battery will be available in 2018 as a MY2019.
  • F44 2GC (2 Series Gran Coupe) is confirmed for the U.S.
  • G07 X7 is confirmed for (near-)simultaneous introduction with G05 in 2018. One interesting bit is that the top diesel model (non-US with the same old B57S) currently carries the M50d designation, with a bunch of M pieces as standard, while the top gas model is still xDrive50i, and the same M pieces are options. As widely reported, G07 will be very similar mechanically to G05, with the main differentiation in creature comforts and the 3rd row specific configuration: there will be 6- and 7-seat versions and climate control will have 5 independent zones (because having only four zones is so plebeian).

October 2017
  • Good news/bad news about G29. Good news: M40i will have power output at the upper end of our expectations (not very far from M2/S55). Bad news: I haven't seen any G29s with a manual.
    sDrive30i will not surprise - same engine as G20 330i. Interesting colors are Misano Blue, San Francisco Red, and Frozen Grey II. And you'll be able to build a Superman Z4 too. Mid-2018 market intro as previously established.

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      10-17-2013, 01:23 PM   #2
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I'm surprised that they decided to use almost the same engine for the new x5m/x6m. Sad that bmw m can't make a new engine for every new body style anymore. Also by auto, does that mean dct or just a regular automatic or both? It seems like both but just want to be 100 percent.
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I'm surprised that they decided to use almost the same engine for the new x5m/x6m. Sad that bmw m can't make a new engine for every new body style anymore. Also by auto, does that mean dct or just a regular automatic or both? It seems like both but just want to be 100 percent.
It's not the same engine exactly. E70 X5M uses the O0 revision, F10 M5 uses T0, and F85/F86 will come with T2, so I would expect about 10hp/10lbs bump. This is in line with F15 using the same engines as E70, benefiting instead from lighter weight and improved drivetrain. And it's been the norm for a very long time now for BMW to use the same engine with minor variations in many different models.

No idea what kind of transmission will be there - the source doesn't specify that.
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What's the F45?
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What's the F45?
BMW Sport Active Tourer, the dreaded compact FWD car built on the new Mini platform.
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I've just found the September copy of the same data and edited the original post.

Added:
- F30 LCI
- F48 (new X1)
- F54
- G11/G12
- F15 X5 28i engine (ridiculous, in my opinion)
- F45 220i

And something close to the final confirmation that some US F31 and F34 RWD versions that existed in development are not making it to production (basically, whoever's been waiting for non-sedan RWD 3 series to come to the US - my advice is to give up).

F20 LCI (not listed here since it's EU only) and F30 LCI give us a good view into BMW's plans for the transition to B-series engines. It seems that, for a given displacement, the higher-output versions of the current engines will continue, while their lower-output versions will be replaced. So, for F30 LCI we'll have 320i with B48 and 335i with B58, but 328i will continue with N20/26. F20 M135i, having the higher output version of N55, will continue with it (just like N20 125i and N13 118i), while most other F20s will transition to B37/B38/B47. Based on G11/12, there's also no 8-cylinder engine in B-series lineup yet, so N63 is also staying.

F48 X1 is confirmed to be FWD (US is xDrive only, but EU will get FWD).

There's a whole new range of new production code designations for F06/12/13, I'm not clear what this is about yet.

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- F15 X5 28i engine (ridiculous, in my opinion)
This one is actually more interesting than I thought. It's the xDrive40E model. N20 motor with "40e" designation seems to suggest that the F15 will be a deeper hybrid with a larger electric motor than the existing ActiveHybrid models.

One more thing I only noticed just now: there's no model type reservation for US market F31 LCI RWD. This is the final nail in the coffin for our hopes to get a RWD wagon.
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This one is actually more interesting than I thought. It's the xDrive40E model. N20 motor with "40e" designation seems to suggest that the F15 will be a deeper hybrid with a larger electric motor than the existing ActiveHybrid models.

One more thing I only noticed just now: there's no model type reservation for US market F31 LCI RWD. This is the final nail in the coffin for our hopes to get a RWD wagon.
The X1 is outselling the F31 by a considerable margin. The new X1 arrives around the same time as the LCI F31. Expect a shift in priorities.
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The X1 is outselling the F31 by a considerable margin. The new X1 arrives around the same time as the LCI F31. Expect a shift in priorities.
Should this make me happy? Shift of priorities from RWD wagons to FWD tall CUV? Is this a Toyota forum?

The current X1, on the other hand, is a brilliant car. Its only problem is it's much smaller on the inside than F31.
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Should this make me happy? Shift of priorities from RWD wagons to FWD tall CUV? Is this a Toyota forum?

The current X1, on the other hand, is a brilliant car. Its only problem is it's much smaller on the inside than F31.
Ynguldyn, thanks for this interesting post.

Can you distinguish the 435GC according to the data? If yes, does it look like it will also get the N55 engine vs B58?
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Ynguldyn, thanks for this interesting post.

Can you distinguish the 435GC according to the data? If yes, does it look like it will also get the N55 engine vs B58?
I just saw that you in fact listed F36, not F32, which would mean the GC would get the N55 also according to your list.
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The X1 is outselling the F31 by a considerable margin. The new X1 arrives around the same time as the LCI F31. Expect a shift in priorities.
Should this make me happy? Shift of priorities from RWD wagons to FWD tall CUV? Is this a Toyota forum?

The current X1, on the other hand, is a brilliant car. Its only problem is it's much smaller on the inside than F31.
Exactly why we bought the X1 over the F31. The current 3er is too large for our desires. A 2GC would go a long way towards making me want another BMW.
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The X1 is outselling the F31 by a considerable margin. The new X1 arrives around the same time as the LCI F31. Expect a shift in priorities.
And the X1 is RWD and cost approx $15k less, once optionned. What a surprise that it sells in larger volumes, its a bargain (or more precisely, the F31 is a robbery, that's why I don't currently own one). Now if the next X1 is FW, what makes it better than the CX5 or any random japanese thing with the "premium" package is not very clear. Meanwhile the F31 is expected to remain priced to not-sale.
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Interesting F30 LCI will be one of the first real tastes of the longitudinal applications for the new modular 0.5l cylinder engine design if the chart can be believed.

We bought an f34 instead of f31 for more space and the n55. Not surprising if the RWD option is being dropped, most people want to never think about breaking traction. Though it is possible to break traction in our xDrive f34, you have to try pretty hard
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The X1 is outselling the F31 by a considerable margin. The new X1 arrives around the same time as the LCI F31. Expect a shift in priorities.
And the X1 is RWD and cost approx $15k less, once optionned. What a surprise that it sells in larger volumes, its a bargain (or more precisely, the F31 is a robbery, that's why I don't currently own one). Now if the next X1 is FW, what makes it better than the CX5 or any random japanese thing with the "premium" package is not very clear. Meanwhile the F31 is expected to remain priced to not-sale.
+1 BMW doesn't want the F31 to sell well. They want people buying the more profitable X3.
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B48 engine in the 320i? Will this be a ~200 hp engine? Do we know anything about the B-series engines yet?
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The interesting thing about 2014 is it is all about product, product that sells , product that is established and product that will appeal to new and existing customers.

Starting with the NAIAS will be the World Premiere of the BMW M3 and M4 Coupe and the BMW 2er Coupe.

For Geneva in March we will see the launch of the BMW 4er Gran Coupe and the first FWD BMW the 2er Active Tourer.

In April will be the joint World Premiere at the NYIAS and Leipzig show in Germany of the new BMW X4 and revised BMW X3.

Leipzig will also introduce another European model.

A new Concept car will be unveiled in April prior to the Beijing Auto show this years destination for the Auto China event.

The villa d'este will see an example of further design collaboration.

Making its premiere in one of its largest markets will be the all new BMW X6 Sports Activity Coupe at the Moscow Auto show in August.

On the a Road to Paris the new 2er Cabrio will Premiere in the city of lights as will two new M models.
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Ynguldyn, thanks for this interesting post.

Can you distinguish the 435GC according to the data? If yes, does it look like it will also get the N55 engine vs B58?
What engine is the B58?
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What engine is the B58?
3.0L replacement for the N55.
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B48 engine in the 320i? Will this be a ~200 hp engine? Do we know anything about the B-series engines yet?
It's the same engine as the recently unveiled F56 Mini Cooper S, 189bhp/207lb-ft.
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On the a Road to Paris the new 2er Cabrio will Premiere in the city of lights as will two new M models.
that would be the X5M and the X6M LCI's, right?

is that 4erGC going to get an M treatment Scott?
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that would be the X5M and the X6M LCI's, right?
Two new M-models likely means F82 M4 Cabrio and F85 X5M.

X6M LCI came out last year.
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