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Jason · 10-16-2007, 11:42 PM

The spellbinding steering precision right from the factory can be improved a few shades more by the 25-millimetre lower suspension setting at the front axle and 15-millimetre lower suspension at the rear. The H&R development team has also taken care to ensure that the spring kit harmonises perfectly with the adjustable dampers, an optional extra, so you can be sure of a comfortable ride, even with the sporty setup. Better traction also facilitates higher cornering speeds – even on hairpin bends and when changing direction quickly.

The lower suspension gives the car a wider look, even making it seem a touch more masculine. The wheel spacers, which can be combined with the series and aftermarket rims, take care of the rest, putting the icing on the cake of this chassis package. H&R-Spezialfedern isn’t neglecting those who like to race for fun or glory either. Coilovers and additional stabilisers will soon be available to make the V8 M3 once again the king of all racetracks in its category in the future. The M3 legend lives on - with the perfect extras from H&R.

PIMP "E" · 10-17-2007, 01:34 AM

wow, they didnt waste no time getting to it.

BNR32 · 10-17-2007, 01:46 AM

Very cool! But I'll stick with EDC thank you very much!

swamp2 · 10-17-2007, 02:07 AM

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Originally Posted by BNR32

Very cool! But I'll stick with EDC thank you very much!

Which part about their system being FULLY COMPATIBLE with EDC didn't you read?

jtown · 10-17-2007, 04:15 AM

Makes you think if they mate well or not. EDC and new springs. I've been wondering this for the longest time. If you go aftermarket suspension should you skip EDC?

Last E92 M3 · 10-17-2007, 08:21 AM

hm looks very nice

mkoesel · 10-17-2007, 09:43 AM

Any word on $$$?

RichP · 10-17-2007, 10:43 AM

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Originally Posted by BNR32

Very cool! But I'll stick with EDC thank you very much!

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Originally Posted by jtown

Makes you think if they mate well or not. EDC and new springs. I've been wondering this for the longest time. If you go aftermarket suspension should you skip EDC?

reading is fundamental....IT IS DESIGNED TO WORK WITH EDC!

Davo2003 · 10-17-2007, 11:08 AM

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Originally Posted by BNR32

Very cool! But I'll stick with EDC thank you very much!

Good call...not.

Epacy · 10-17-2007, 12:42 PM

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Originally Posted by swamp2

Which part about their system being FULLY COMPATIBLE with EDC didn't you read?

Watch out. This post could get deleted for that kind of tone.

mkoesel · 10-17-2007, 03:42 PM

LOL, that was a quick retraction, JerezBlue!

K3N R3D · 10-17-2007, 08:13 PM

This is very interesting, and I'm also interested in prices. But right now I'm more concerned with which aftermarket parts can I buy that wont void my warrantee?

ase2dais · 10-17-2007, 08:19 PM

Bravo! H&R Bravo!

Sharpshot · 10-24-2007, 04:51 PM

Is there any benefit from the new suspension compared to the stock? Other then a lower ride height?

Cheers

masmole · 10-25-2007, 12:27 AM

I'm confused. Shown are both springs and dampers in the coilover setup. Are the springs alone designed to work with the EDC dampers that are retained or are they implying the entire system will work with the M-Drive's EDC controls? Meaning, swap out the EDC dampers with special H&R dampers that can somehow be rigged so that the damping can be adjusted by the car's electronics as it does the original EDC dampers that are to be replaced.

Just trying to shed some more light on whether to order my M3 with or without EDC. Loved the EDC's ability to go from comfy to firm in my M5. Made it great for city driving while switching to firm made it feel very competent at the track.

Epacy · 10-25-2007, 07:41 AM

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Originally Posted by masmole

I'm confused. ... are they implying the entire system will work with the M-Drive's EDC controls?

EDC is not an M-Drive specific function.

masmole · 10-25-2007, 02:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Epacy

EDC is not an M-Drive specific function.

I know that, but you get my point. I'm just eager to find out if the H&R suspension is a spring-only kit designed to work with stock EDC dampers or-if indeed they have gone as far as designing new adjustable dampers to go with the springs that are actually 3-way adjustable from the M-Drive or directly via the EDC button.

swamp2 · 10-25-2007, 02:58 PM

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Originally Posted by masmole

I know that, but you get my point. I'm just eager to find out if the H&R suspension is a spring-only kit designed to work with stock EDC dampers or-if indeed they have gone as far as designing new adjustable dampers to go with the springs that are actually 3-way adjustable from the M-Drive or directly via the EDC button.

EDC is compatible with all springs. Some spring vendors may "certify" them as EDC ready but that is really not an issue.

I highly doubt that aftermarket companies (certainly not for some time) will release their own version of an EDC shock. EDC is a diverse and integrated system that ties into the larger DSC system. Unless BMW released a detailed guide on their specs (electronics, communications, etc) folks won't be able to make such shocks.

The real question IMO is this. Since EDC is customizeable by software wouldn't it make a lot more sense to offer more tuning options by a PC interface or more detailed idrive interface?

EDC largely eliminates the need for an aftermarket suspension for the car. That is unless you only drive on the track in which case you would probably be able to squeeze out a bit more performance from a coil over set up.

Sedan_Clan · 10-25-2007, 05:31 PM

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Originally Posted by swamp2

EDC largely eliminates the need for an aftermarket suspension for the car. That is unless you only drive on the track in which case you would probably be able to squeeze out a bit more performance from a coil over set up.

Except for ride height, and the possibility that compressing the shock a bit w/ a lowering spring might hinder or prematurely wear out the EDC damper. What are your thoughts on the latter?

ROTORHEAD77 · 02-03-2008, 07:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Sedan_Clan

Except for ride height, and the possibility that compressing the shock a bit w/ a lowering spring might hinder or prematurely wear out the EDC damper. What are your thoughts on the latter?

I was thinking the same thing. I would like to hear somebody with some experience on the issue expound upon the subject, as the car sure does look nice with the new springs.

Patricius · 02-05-2008, 01:19 PM

I will be waiting for aftermarket suspension manufacturers to come out with full coilover kits that allow for the use of EDC vs. going w/ just springs. Historically with BMWs, you're looking at 10k miles out of your stock shocks/dampers with springs-only before they are shot.

Epacy · 02-05-2008, 02:16 PM

10k? Are you being realistic with that?

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masmole Lieutenant Drives: 07 RS4, 07 ML63, 06 M5 Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 485 iTrader: (0)	I'm confused. Shown are both springs and dampers in the coilover setup. Are the springs alone designed to work with the EDC dampers that are retained or are they implying the entire system will work with the M-Drive's EDC controls? Meaning, swap out the EDC dampers with special H&R dampers that can somehow be rigged so that the damping can be adjusted by the car's electronics as it does the original EDC dampers that are to be replaced. Just trying to shed some more light on whether to order my M3 with or without EDC. Loved the EDC's ability to go from comfy to firm in my M5. Made it great for city driving while switching to firm made it feel very competent at the track.

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Patricius Lieutenant Drives: 04 325xi, 05 M3 cpe, 08 M3 cpe Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Philadelphia, PA Posts: 537 iTrader: (0)	I will be waiting for aftermarket suspension manufacturers to come out with full coilover kits that allow for the use of EDC vs. going w/ just springs. Historically with BMWs, you're looking at 10k miles out of your stock shocks/dampers with springs-only before they are shot.

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