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      10-01-2013, 11:14 AM   #1
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Anyone use PFC08 as a daily pad?

Looking for something track oriented that can be used on the street as well. How is the cold bite of the PFC08's and how is the noise provided they are properly bedded?

Would you be happy using the PFC08's on the street or should I just give up and swap pads every time?
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      10-01-2013, 12:00 PM   #2
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Noise is still bad. Wont not be happy with them on the street. Cold bite is poor compared to OEM.
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      10-01-2013, 01:53 PM   #3
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Looking for something track oriented that can be used on the street as well. How is the cold bite of the PFC08's and how is the noise provided they are properly bedded?

Would you be happy using the PFC08's on the street or should I just give up and swap pads every time?
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I used them for a while. No problem with noise or cold bite. Just be aware that they need some temp to be full effective.
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what would be a good DD pad that is a definite upgrade over stock?
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I used them for a while. No problem with noise or cold bite. Just be aware that they need some temp to be full effective.
IMO, that's exactly the problem I see with running race pads on the street. Incidents on the street are not nearly as predictable as they are on the track. If I need to apply brakes in an emergency I don't want to give up distance because the pads are cold. Even one foot can be the difference.
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But the question is, is partial effectiveness of the PFC08's equally effective to the fully effective OEM pads in those situations?
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But the question is, is partial effectiveness of the PFC08's equally effective to the fully effective OEM pads in those situations?
IMO, no. The initial bite of cold track pads is not the equal of the OEM pads in a single use (emergency, panic, etc.) braking event.

You may decide the risks are worth the lack of hassle in changing out pads and drive accordingly, it's essentially what a lot of us do when driving to and from the track with race pads installed. It's just not something I'm willing to put up with on a daily basis even if there was no additional pad noise.
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IMO, no. The initial bite of cold track pads is not the equal of the OEM pads in a single use (emergency, panic, etc.) braking event.

You may decide the risks are worth the lack of hassle in changing out pads and drive accordingly, it's essentially what a lot of us do when driving to and from the track with race pads installed. It's just not something I'm willing to put up with on a daily basis even if there was no additional pad noise.
Okay, thanks. I will just swap them out before and after track events. A bit of hassle is worth it for safety. I still have to drive 3 hours to the track with them on, so I hope they are somewhat safe on the street.
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i had rs19s as a daily and now use sr34s all the time on my e46. never had any issue with cold stopping but i never had any emergency stops either. seemed to work fine.
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For an emergency stop, you probably hit the brakes hard enough to trigger the ABS, so at that time you probably are tire traction limited instead of pad limited. Same if you are threshold braking....

The bite difference would likely be a feel difference.
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