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      11-05-2013, 06:54 PM   #67
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I'm sick of waiting for Michelin to release their 285/30 PSS..

Anyone have 295/30 PSS on ZCP rears? pics/links/info would be appreciated.
See my pics above. I'm running the 275/295 PSS combo.
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      11-05-2013, 08:50 PM   #68
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See my pics above. I'm running the 275/295 PSS combo.
I saw them ,thanks!

Any other shots, specially of the bulge and fender views?
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Yeah I've heard you can get 20k+ miles out of the PSS but it's going to be a few years before I know as I just put them on this past Spring The RE-11s are considered an even grippier tire I believe but not as good in the wet, and since I daily drive my car I was more comfortable with the PSS. They certainly grip like crazy on the street.
I had the PSS on my 135i and have them now on my 335is, 20k miles is actually no problem. The last year I had my 135i it was on KW V1s and tuned and I drove it HARD, I think I averaged ~13mpg over the whole year over 13-15k miles and the PSS kept begging for more. Overall, I put over 20,000 miles on the PSS on that car and then sold them to my friend who has put another 5-7k miles on them and they still have plenty of tread left!

No personal experience with the RE11, but I do know the PSS have earned a permanent spot on all my street cars until something even more amazing comes out.
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      11-06-2013, 03:41 AM   #70
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Try RE11's you will be happy. Not knocking PSS they're awesome too but they're not as aggressive.
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Autocrossers stuff as wide a tire they can on any rim. This is not new, and it produces faster times at the expense of turn in and 'feel'.

I wouldn't recommend that type of setup for the street though. You don't need that much tire for the street.
you hit the nail on the head. I used to have a twin turbo hsv r8 (read pontiac g8) with 275's at the front and 305's at the back using Michelin Sports Cup rubber. Excellent on the track but on the street the car lost cornering feel and was pig to drive.

Been there done that.
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so looks like the 295/30 on ZCP has some slight rubbing according to those I pinged.

Which begs the question: why is the 285/30 r19 such a hard/unusual size for a tire?

even the RE11 and AD08's don't come in that size, christ!
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      11-06-2013, 04:51 PM   #73
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so looks like the 295/30 on ZCP has some slight rubbing according to those I pinged.
The rubbing is so minimal on the street that it's not even noticeable. If you look at the tire sidewall the first few months of driving on them you'll see some slight "rub wear", but you don't hear or feel it actually taking place. Or at least I didn't
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so looks like the 295/30 on ZCP has some slight rubbing according to those I pinged.

Which begs the question: why is the 285/30 r19 such a hard/unusual size for a tire?

even the RE11 and AD08's don't come in that size, christ!
This is what I dont understand....285/30/19 is an OEM size for some of the AMG cars.
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This is what I dont understand....285/30/19 is an OEM size for some of the AMG cars.
exactly!

well, at this point i'm leaning like this (in order of priority):

1. re-buy the 275/35 PSS
2. get nitto Invo 255/35f and 285/30r at the expense of less performance overall
3. suck it up and get the 295/30 and live with slight rubbing.

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so looks like the 295/30 on ZCP has some slight rubbing according to those I pinged.

Which begs the question: why is the 285/30 r19 such a hard/unusual size for a tire?

even the RE11 and AD08's don't come in that size, christ!
What are you talking about my 305s don't rub with 4 people in the car. No rub what so ever.
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      11-07-2013, 08:29 AM   #77
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What are you talking about my 305s don't rub with 4 people in the car. No rub what so ever.
you are running 305's on a 19" ZCP wheel?

you got any pics to share? From your previous pics it looks like you are running RE11's or another tire, not the PSS.

If you have some shots of the flushness to the rear fender, and of the bulge, I would really appreciate it man!
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255/275 is the ideal size for that size wheel on this car

I run 255/275 on my RAC wheels (same width, slightly more aggressive offset) and the fitment is great, and the handling feels perfect.

I chose to go with the ad08r because the M3 is a heavy car, and a tire with a firm and stable sidewall like the ad08r makes a big difference in how the car steers and feels even on the street. going with a softer sidewall tire like pss in a larger size will really reduce the sidewall stability and support, and I would hate how the car would drive.

I will track the car as well, but even on the street I far prefer an extreme summer on this car to a tire like PSS
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so looks like 295/30 may or may not rub, and if it does rub, it is under full load/compression according to those who have posted it:

http://www.m3post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=597947
http://www.m3post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=648188
http://www.m3post.com/forums/showpos...5&postcount=14

the PSS seems to be the safest obviously, but looks like even the AD08's may fit if you are willing to do some fender rolling or inner lining trimming.
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Don't forget this thread too: http://www.m3post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=676555

I investigated this topic endlessly years ago
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exactly!

well, at this point i'm leaning like this (in order of priority):

1. re-buy the 275/35 PSS
2. get nitto Invo 255/35f and 285/30r at the expense of less performance overall
3. suck it up and get the 295/30 and live with slight rubbing.

I had the Invos, not a bad tire but you can do better for the same amount of money. The new Toyo T1Sports is an excellent tire which I am running now. Also the Continental Sportcontact5 P is an awesome tire. Right up there with the Michellin PSS, if not better in some tests, although more expensive.

I think the GTS sizes are the best sizes to run on this car..its not just my opinion its what BMW chose for the GTS. I have no issues with the MDM nor DSC issues a lot of people like to post about. Ben at TireRack even said as much...

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here is a guy running 255/35, 295/30 on ZCP stock suspension with AD08's



http://www.m3post.com/forums/showthr...=665300&page=3

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I had the Invos, not a bad tire but you can do better for the same amount of money. The new Toyo T1Sports is an excellent tire which I am running now. Also the Continental Sportcontact5 P is an awesome tire. Right up there with the Michellin PSS, if not better in some tests, although more expensive.

I think the GTS sizes are the best sizes to run on this car..its not just my opinion its what BMW chose for the GTS. I have no issues with the MDM nor DSC issues a lot of people like to post about. Ben at TireRack even said as much...
hmmm... never heard of the sportcontact 5 P to be "as good" as the PSS I'm not saying that's incorrect, as you've looked into this longer than I have, but I'd love to see some reviews that can show this.

here is some comments from mbworld on the sportcontact 5P vs PSS:

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hmmm... never heard of the sportcontact 5 P to be "as good" as the PSS I'm not saying that's incorrect, as you've looked into this longer than I have, but I'd love to see some reviews that can show this.

here is some comments from mbworld on the sportcontact 5P vs PSS:

http://mbworld.org/forums/c63-amg-w2...helin-pss.html
It seems to be a mixed bag in that post..from my own experience I thought they were on equal footing. The biggest gripe I saw was about wear. Continental improved the 5Ps to a 280 treadwear when they were 240. Also, there have been some tiretests in Europe I saw and the Conti 5Ps came out on top over the PSS. Like I said I think they are darn near equal. The issue is that the PSS isn't available in the rear GTS sizes.

If the PSS were available in 285/30/19 sizes I would choose them over the Contis only because of price.

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you are running 305's on a 19" ZCP wheel?

you got any pics to share? From your previous pics it looks like you are running RE11's or another tire, not the PSS.

If you have some shots of the flushness to the rear fender, and of the bulge, I would really appreciate it man!
Page 2 has photos. I will get more just tell me exactly what you want.

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Page 2 has photos. I will get more just tell me exactly what you want.
yeah, so those. Thanks man, that's really cool if you can post some pics of the side view to the fender, and the bulge area.

perhaps a closeup with good lighting of an angle like this:
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So this guy from another forum I goto posted this when I asked:

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295/30 PSS is not good on 10" wheel, i ran it for a while, it works but it's really too big. I'm running them on an 11" wheel now and it's much better. That also means you'll probably want to run a 265 or 275 in the front which is also too wide on the 9" wheel.
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im telling you, it's not fine, i ran 265F 295R on ZCP wheels for a while, they are too wide and there's too much sidewall flex, the car loses some of that tight precise feeling, you will notice it.

I'm now running the same tire sizes on 9.5/11 and it's much better, but i wouldn't do it again on ZCP wheels.

if i were you i would probably do 255/35 and 275/35.
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He's correct, you do lose some feel with those widths and on harder cornering there is some flex until the car "settles" into the turn, but then it grips like crazy. For the driving I do on the street this isn't really bothersome but it would not be ideal on a track. I love the ZCP wheels, and wanted the look of wider tires without going much shorter in tire diameter (285/30), so I decided to take the above trade-off. You have to decide what you're most comfortable with.
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