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      09-12-2013, 10:59 AM   #45
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Ah, fanboy butthurt. Did anyone say the S4 was innovative? I didn't see that posted... I certainly don't think my S4 is innovative...

I loved my iPhone 5 (except for one issue), and every one of my iPhones before that one too.

But for now I went with a "cheaply made" Samsung. I will say I do like being able to customize my phone the way I do. I haven't looked into the iOS 7, but I'm sure it's more of the same stuff that Apple is great for. I don't like having to jailbreak the phone to customize it to my liking though. I don't have any issues with my S4 for now. It definitely doesn't feel as "sturdy" as the iPhone, likely because it is made with much more plastic, but I really don't care. I have no issues with using it. I've also dropped it accidentally a couple of times. Aside from the back case scratching, there's no damage to the phone itself.

I don't think I am a fanboy, I just like what I like at the time. The battery issues I had with my iPhone 5 were my only issues. For some reason, the battery would drain extremely quickly under little usage (much faster than my wife's iPhone 5), and the phone would shut off at 20-25% remaining randomly, saying the battery was dead. That was my only problem really.

I could have gotten a new iPhone 5, but for some reason I didn't. I don't really have an explanation why. When I walked in the store I just told them I wanted a Galaxy S4, even though earlier that day my intention was to get another iPhone 5. It wasn't the stupid commercials or the hand waving or any of that stuff (that I never use).

I may change my mind later, but likely not until at least the iPhone 6 rolls out as the 5S doesn't really provide anything worth switching to at this time (not to mention I don't have an upgrade available). Most of the gimmick stuff on the S4 I don't even use, as I'm sure most people who have one don't use that junk either. But I don't get people whining, "My phone is better for <insert reason here>..." People trying to justify themselves and their purchases to strangers online...

It really is all personal preference at this point... The phones are all very similar. If you like the iPhone, stick with it. My original intention was always to get on the S rotation of their phones since my upgrades always came out when the new number was designated. IMO, if you have a 5 I wouldn't get the 5S, either wait a while for the 6 or wait a bit longer for the 6S and stick with that rotation. Just my thoughts though.
I'm not hurt. I don't care what phone or OS you prefer. I find the S4 to be cheaply made. It wasn't meant to be a knock against you for liking it. That is just my opinion. I prefer the build quality and materials used on my iPhone 5.

I'm just tired of the BS surrounding the iPhone vs Android debate. As you said it's personal preference.
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Also, it seems like the 2 year upgrade system that most carriers have is changing to a yearly thing.... so the ads point to anyway.
It's interesting. I'm a little hesitant to hear their plans. They are coming out with flashy names for them, which leads me to believe that you'll pay a monthly fee for it since you want to upgrade once a year instead of once every 2. Overall I am concerned it'll cost more money in the end. Who knows.

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I'm just tired of the BS surrounding the iPhone vs Android debate. As you said it's personal preference.
Me too. It's getting old.

As I said, I loved my iPhone except for the battery issue. That was the only issue I've ever had with any iPhone I owned. My wife had a Motorola that had horrible issues. She got an iPhone 5 and loves it. After I got the S4 and was walking out of the store, I saw the HTC One and thought twice. I think if I gave too much thought to it, the decision would be more difficult. The phones are all very similar in what they can do anyway, so I'm glad I just kind of made my choice on a whim.
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It's interesting. I'm a little hesitant to hear their plans. They are coming out with flashy names for them, which leads me to believe that you'll pay a monthly fee for it since you want to upgrade once a year instead of once every 2. Overall I am concerned it'll cost more money in the end. Who knows.
From what I have read about it, you do end up paying for the ability to upgrade once a year( or every 6 months with T-Mobile).

It's just another way the carriers are milking more money out of us.

I'm fine upgrading every two years especially with the way Apple updates are. The jump from 4->4S or 5->5s is never big. You get the same design, but with refinement. But the jumps from 4->5 or 4S -> 5s will be big. New design,tech, etc.
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Im getting it so I can play candy crush. I heard theres like a lot more pixels.
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But, tell me what other modern smartphone has changed the way we use smartphones than the original iPhone?

Android phones haven't changed the way we use our phones. People may prefer Android phones over the iPhone because their features are more attractive to them, but they haven't revolutionized or innovated anything. It's still the same basic formula the original iPhone laid out.
Why are you discussing the original iPhone? Live in the nowwwww. Apple is no long innovative. Biometrics don't belong on a personal device (I work on the largest biom system in the world). It's a gimmick to sell more phones because their innovation is stagnant. Android phones are advancing at a much faster rate than iPhone.
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Why are you discussing the original iPhone? Live in the nowwwww. Apple is no long innovative. Biometrics don't belong on a personal device (I work on the largest biom system in the world). It's a gimmick to sell more phones because their innovation is stagnant. Android phones are advancing at a much faster rate than iPhone.
But part of his point was advancing how?
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I just started playing myself only because my wife downloaded it on my phone and now I'm addicted.
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I just started playing myself only because my wife downloaded it on my phone and now I'm addicted.
Its fun. Makes me crave runts everytime I play it.
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Why are you discussing the original iPhone? Live in the nowwwww. Apple is no long innovative. Biometrics don't belong on a personal device (I work on the largest biom system in the world). It's a gimmick to sell more phones because their innovation is stagnant. Android phones are advancing at a much faster rate than iPhone.
What do you mean advancing faster than the iPhone? What is making Android phones more innovative?

I'm discussing the original iPhone because there hasn't been innovation in the smartphone market since 2007. Don't hold Apple on a high pedestal of expecting innovation for every phone when Android makers aren't innovating either.

They are all still working off the original iPhone's formula. No one has changed it yet.

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But part of his point was advancing how?
Exactly. Android phones may have bigger screens, but that isn't innovating. Bigger batteries? Not innovating.

I'm not seeing how Android makers are running away with the market in "innovations". If you prefer Android, fine. I am not arguing over which is better as that's personal preference. If you think the features on a Samsung, HTC, etc are better than the iPhone that's fine too. But, stop with the BS.

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What do you mean advancing faster than the iPhone? What is making Android phones more innovative?
There are two features some Android phones have that I would consider as advancements, though not necessarily innovations. Those are LTE network compatibility and NFC (near field communication). NFC can allow your phone to become a "virtual wallet" and then pay for things via a contactless payment system. This is something I know many iPhone users were hoping for. On the flip side, iOS 7 becoming a 64-bit OS is an advancement over the Android OS.
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There are two features some Android phones have that I would consider as advancements, though not necessarily innovations. Those are LTE network compatibility and NFC (near field communication). NFC can allow your phone to become a "virtual wallet" and then pay for things via a contactless payment system. This is something I know many iPhone users were hoping for. On the flip side, iOS 7 becoming a 64-bit OS is an advancement over the Android OS.
iPhone has LTE now( has had it since the 5). The reason why Android phones had it first was because LTE at first required a compromise Apple wasn't willing to make. The first generation of LTE radios were power hungry and didn't integrate GSM and CDMA into them. That required Android phones to have two radios, one for LTE and one for GSM/CDMA. Apple wasn't willing to do that. But, now that LTE radios have GSM/CDMA built into them as well, Apple put LTE in the iPhone.

As for NFC, like LTE a few years ago, it hasn't matured yet. Right now the biggest NFC function right now has been S beam with Samsung phones. The potential is there, but I don't think Apple will put it in iPhones until it reaches maturity.

That has been a well established principal of Apple. They will not get into a spec sheet race( why iPods for a long time didn't have a FM tuner) and they will not implement a technology that they feel is not ready to be implemented.
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Boring IMO. I will rather get next Nexus, it looks great on leaked specs.
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Im getting it so I can play candy crush. I heard theres like a lot more pixels.
lolol.... hear it is addictive... my buddy rear-ended a car and denies playing but I think he was!

it is time for me to roll on up from the i4.... which honestly has not been bad, but battery life and speed are factors I would wish to improve. the gray looks cool too!
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iPhone has LTE now( has had it since the 5). The reason why Android phones had it first was because LTE at first required a compromise Apple wasn't willing to make. The first generation of LTE radios were power hungry and didn't integrate GSM and CDMA into them. That required Android phones to have two radios, one for LTE and one for GSM/CDMA. Apple wasn't willing to do that. But, now that LTE radios have GSM/CDMA built into them as well, Apple put LTE in the iPhone.

As for NFC, like LTE a few years ago, it hasn't matured yet. Right now the biggest NFC function right now has been S beam with Samsung phones. The potential is there, but I don't think Apple will put it in iPhones until it reaches maturity.

That has been a well established principal of Apple. They will not get into a spec sheet race( why iPods for a long time didn't have a FM tuner) and they will not implement a technology that they feel is not ready to be implemented.

I can understand waiting on a new technology until it has matured, though there are some people who always prefer being on the bleeding edge. Holding out on the FM tuner for the iPods still baffles me though. An FM tuner is simple and mature tech, so why hold back if the customers are asking for it?
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I can understand waiting on a new technology until it has matured, though there are some people who always prefer being on the bleeding edge. Holding out on the FM tuner for the iPods still baffles me though. An FM tuner is simple and mature tech, so why hold back if the customers are asking for it?
It's not about whether the tech is mature. IMO it's a strategic decision. Apple is deeply involved in the music industry, so putting an FM tuner in their products would, IMO, cannibalize their iTunes sales.
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putting an FM tuner in their products would, IMO, cannibalize their iTunes sales.
and they've gotten me to buy about 28GB worth of music from them in the last 3 years HAHA !!!!

and about 40GB worth of music videos......
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I think I'll probably get the 5s, I have a 4 right now, the only thing I don't like is it doesn't come in all black. I've been due for an upgrade for a whole but just didn't see anything that peeked my interest. I was went and looked at the galaxy s4 and it felt cheap, I looked at the 5 also and I like it but I just decided not to get it. I went and looked at them earier this week and I tell you what, if I had bought the 5 that week I'd be pissed right now lol.
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and they've gotten me to buy about 28GB worth of music from them in the last 3 years HAHA !!!!

and about 40GB worth of music videos......
Damn that's a lot of music and videos purchased. Lol must have cost you a fortune.
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I think I'll probably get the 5s, I have a 4 right now, the only thing I don't like is it doesn't come in all black. I've been due for an upgrade for a whole but just didn't see anything that peeked my interest. I was went and looked at the galaxy s4 and it felt cheap, I looked at the 5 also and I like it but I just decided not to get it. I went and looked at them earier this week and I tell you what, if I had bought the 5 that week I'd be pissed right now lol.
I think they have a 14-30 day return policy no? But yeah those that don't follow the news and went out to get a 5 would be kicking themselves right now.

I actually like the white version on the 5C too. It's reminiscent of the 3GS.
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and they've gotten me to buy about 28GB worth of music from them in the last 3 years HAHA !!!!

and about 40GB worth of music videos......
They still make music videos?
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