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      04-18-2013, 09:48 PM   #1
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Few M3s totaled during shipping

This is not recent (2008 someone mentioned below ). Few M3 are totaled in the ship
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      04-18-2013, 09:50 PM   #2
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Must be quite old judging from the tail lights on the white 335 in the first picture. Must be 2008 or 2009...
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      04-18-2013, 10:03 PM   #3
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Must be quite old judging from the tail lights on the white 335 in the first picture. Must be 2008 or 2009...
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      04-18-2013, 10:03 PM   #4
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Must be quite old judging from the tail lights on the white 335 in the first picture. Must be 2008 or 2009...
Taillights are 2008 only.
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      04-18-2013, 10:08 PM   #5
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Yeah I remember hearing about this a while back... a shame to see these go to waste like that
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      04-18-2013, 10:22 PM   #6
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In 2005, my ED e90 330i car needed a new hood, front and rear bumper, and both driver's side doors, after cars got loose in rough seas... It happens. Sucks, but it happens.
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      04-18-2013, 10:55 PM   #7
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old, here's a member who found out his car was damaged during delivery and fixed at the inspection center

http://www.m3post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=425763

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      04-18-2013, 11:07 PM   #8
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In 2005, my ED e90 330i car needed a new hood, front and rear bumper, and both driver's side doors, after cars got loose in rough seas... It happens. Sucks, but it happens.
dude and you accepted the car?
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      04-18-2013, 11:28 PM   #9
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how could that happen, i mean that serious?
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      04-18-2013, 11:29 PM   #10
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how could that happen, i mean that serious?
the seamen got bored and played demolition derby on deck.
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      04-18-2013, 11:43 PM   #11
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dude and you accepted the car?
I already took delivery and owned the car in Munich... ED car, you own it. So, yep, I accepted it. FWIW, it never showed up on carfax.
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      04-18-2013, 11:44 PM   #12
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the seamen got bored and played demolition derby on deck.
Why do I feel the need to quote this, as if I were Beavis?
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      04-19-2013, 01:04 AM   #13
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This happened in late 2007/early 2008. Many of the damaged cars were repaired and sold as new according to the stories I read at the time.
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      04-19-2013, 01:12 AM   #14
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I already took delivery and owned the car in Munich... ED car, you own it. So, yep, I accepted it. FWIW, it never showed up on carfax.
Interesting, so that is one drawback on ED that I bet many people don't realize (albeit an extremely rare occurrence).
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Yeah, I believe this happened shortly after my 2008 328i was delivered if recollection serves. May've been shortly before as well. All I know is it was around that time and my car wasn't on that particular boat.
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Interesting, so that is one drawback on ED that I bet many people don't realize (albeit an extremely rare occurrence).
I wouldn't call that a drawback at all or even rare. Any car damaged on the way overseas are fixed and sold as new. I'm sure there are a lot of people on this board who's car are smashed like the ones in the pic above and have no clue. And dealers almost never have a clue that this happens either, so don't bother asking them.
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      04-19-2013, 09:24 AM   #17
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I wouldn't call that a drawback at all or even rare. Any car damaged on the way overseas are fixed and sold as new. I'm sure there are a lot of people on this board who's car are smashed like the ones in the pic above and have no clue. And dealers almost never have a clue that this happens either, so don't bother asking them.
I see. The way you stated though was because you ED'd the car, no matter what happens in transit (i.e. major body damage), you have to accept it with the repairs they make.

The difference I was pointing to was that if one wasn't an ED, and by some miracle BMW NA was honest about this happening to your specific order (non ED), you could opt to say you don't want the car.

I guess the final question would be, is there a legal stipulation in your ED documentation that says something similar to the above upon acceptance of ED in Germany?
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This is sad !!
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This happened in late 2007/early 2008. Many of the damaged cars were repaired and sold as new according to the stories I read at the time.
Like I said, it was early (January) 2008. The MV Courage tipped over in port at Jersey City. Quick story:

http://www.autoblog.com/2008/01/14/o...d-in-shipping/

"The carrier M/V Courage tipped at the port in Jersey City on Friday causing damage to over 370 BMWs. The ship was loaded with new 3-series and 1-series vehicles, including new M3s. Around 70 of the damaged cars are reported to be total losses with others sustaining major damage. Word is that the M3s bared the brunt of the brutality. Extensively damaged cars will be crushed while those with minor damage will undergo repair at a receiving facility in Elizabeth, NJ, after which they will proceed onto dealers. Bimmers destined for European delivery customers were also on board, although it's not clear how those buyers will be handled in the wake of the incident.

This is a particularly harsh hit to BMW in terms of the new M3 and even more so for the owners awaiting their new V8-powered uber-coupes. We'd expect this unfortunately event will lead to an extension of the waiting period many potential customers will have to endure. It also means many dealerships are out of luck for a demo car. With the M3's competition coming on strong from the likes of Lexus, Cadillac and Mercedes one can only imagine this sort of setback might steer away a few potential buyers.
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The difference I was pointing to was that if one wasn't an ED, and by some miracle BMW NA was honest about this happening to your specific order (non ED), you could opt to say you don't want the car.
At BMW's port prep center in New Jersey, the body shop is huge and they are constantly fixing cars damaged in transit to the U.S.

If you buy one that has been damaged and fixed off the lot, you'll never know.

If you special order one, the dealer will tell you why your delivery is taking longer than usual (if it's a good dealer), but you don't get a free option to back out of the contract. It's like getting out of any other BMW order contract - you just have to work something out with the dealer.

I never kid myself about a new BMW being "perfect." Some of these cars come off the assembly line, and when they try to start them for the motor test, the engine won't even fire up. They don't point this out on the factory tours, but at the end of the line, there is always a repair area with several lifts, all full of cars getting worked on by mechanics to fix failures that show up during the dyno test.
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As someone with an M3 currently on a ship, your thread title scared the shit out of me.
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This happened to someone who just ordered a new Audi RS5 2 months ago. It was a special order and got damaged while shipped. He contacted Audi NA and the president himself called him to apologize and to offer his money back or to expedite a new order. That guy is getting a new RS5 which should be done in 2 months instead of 4. I guess BMW and Audi are different when it comes to deal with customers..
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At BMW's port prep center in New Jersey, the body shop is huge and they are constantly fixing cars damaged in transit to the U.S.

If you buy one that has been damaged and fixed off the lot, you'll never know.

If you special order one, the dealer will tell you why your delivery is taking longer than usual (if it's a good dealer), but you don't get a free option to back out of the contract. It's like getting out of any other BMW order contract - you just have to work something out with the dealer.

I never kid myself about a new BMW being "perfect." Some of these cars come off the assembly line, and when they try to start them for the motor test, the engine won't even fire up. They don't point this out on the factory tours, but at the end of the line, there is always a repair area with several lifts, all full of cars getting worked on by mechanics to fix failures that show up during the dyno test.
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