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      08-12-2013, 01:12 AM   #23
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I wouldn't recommend DD a GT3 either, but OP's asking for a weekend car and the GT3 would be amazing as one.
The GT3 is not the best car to daily drive but it can be done if you don't have to deal with a lot of stop lights and/or traffic. That being said, my GT3 is a weekend and occasional track car. An M3 would be a much better DD but a 997.2 Turbo with PDK would make a great daily driver too.
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      08-12-2013, 09:18 AM   #24
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It seems like R8 V10 is favored by many at this price range..
Guess I'll have to add it to my list of options
is the r8 v10 in the same price range?
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      08-12-2013, 09:26 AM   #25
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is the r8 v10 in the same price range?
Not at all. If money is no object, then sure it's an amazing car IMO. But the V10's are going for well over $110k last time I checked.

I'm going with option A... kind of. Because I do plan to keep the M3 (and leave it NA) while adding a 997.1 Turbo, MT, Speed Yellow.

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used GTR with 30-40k for mods for the price of a used 911TT is what I would do
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I think that is pretty optimistic to have an additional $40K left over after buying a used GT-R to match the price of a 911T
used GTRs can be had for 60-70. I was basing it off of the price of a new gtr
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      08-12-2013, 11:35 AM   #28
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911 turbo, for sure.
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Not at all. If money is no object, then sure it's an amazing car IMO. But the V10's are going for well over $110k last time I checked.

I'm going with option A... kind of. Because I do plan to keep the M3 (and leave it NA) while adding a 997.1 Turbo, MT, Speed Yellow.

One thing to keep in mind when looking at any car is depreciation. I guarantee anyone that buying, for example, a new M3, adding $30k worth of mods, etc will end up losing you a LOT more money when it comes time to part ways. If you were to purchase a new M3 for $70k, throw $30k worth of mods, in 3 years time if you sold it you may get around $60k for it. I guarantee you a GTR or R8 will not lose that kind of money in resale over the same time span.
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I actually just dealt with that. I had an M3 and spent around $60K worth of mods on it over a 3 year period. When I parted out the car I mostly got back 70 cents to the dollar on the mods - not too bad if you ask me. The rest wasn't money lost, but an investment towards my happiness.
LOL That's also how I see things!
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I actually just dealt with that. I had an M3 and spent around $60K worth of mods on it over a 3 year period. When I parted out the car I mostly got back 70 cents to the dollar on the mods - not too bad if you ask me. The rest wasn't money lost, but an investment towards my happiness.
Does that include installation costs for installing and removing parts?

I too love modding cars, but when installation is factored in, the costs are a little higher in my experience, unfortunately.

Another on topic comment is that the turbo actually is quite expensive to mod. The tunes are very expensive and the manual cars require a more robust clutch even with a tune alone.
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      08-12-2013, 01:00 PM   #33
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New GT-R will stomp an ESS M3, and do it will its full warranty intact. Not hating on ESS by any means, but a $25k motor is a pretty big risk if you lose a rod bearing. No amount of oil analysis is going to save you if it decides to give way unexpectedly or you have a money shift.
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      08-12-2013, 01:16 PM   #34
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This 911 Turbo is pretty good
http://www.cars.com/go/search/detail...nal&listType=1

Or this V10 R8
http://www.cars.com/go/search/detail...nal&listType=1

But for the ultimate weekend car, I'd get this 2004 360 Modena.
http://www.cars.com/go/search/detail...nal&listType=1
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New GT-R will stomp an ESS M3, and do it will its full warranty intact. Not hating on ESS by any means, but a $25k motor is a pretty big risk if you lose a rod bearing. No amount of oil analysis is going to save you if it decides to give way unexpectedly or you have a money shift.
Precisely.
The GTR is the fastest car and its the only one with a full warranty.
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from the list, ill go with Porsche 911 turbo 997.1(2009).
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In regards to warranty issues... I has some fun conversations with GT-R owners at meets who ran into problems with their totally stock cars... so that's hardly an argument in favor of the GT-R.

I have yet to personally meet somebody who did a money shift.
I have owned three GTRs and warranty has never been an issue. The only guys running into problems are the ones that beat the crap out of their cars.
It's ironic that the most reliable sports car I have ever owned gets bashed over warranty(especially from BMW owners).
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New GT-R will stomp an ESS M3, and do it will its full warranty intact. Not hating on ESS by any means, but a $25k motor is a pretty big risk if you lose a rod bearing. No amount of oil analysis is going to save you if it decides to give way unexpectedly or you have a money shift.
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Precisely.
The GTR is the fastest car and its the only one with a full warranty.
Stock GT-R will stomp an ESS M3, what does that mean exactly!? Even a non intercooled VT1(DCT) will be faster or as fast in a straight line then a 2014 GT-R!
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      08-12-2013, 02:20 PM   #39
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[quote=Team Plutonium;14483429] I spent way more on booze.

Way to go drunky mcdrunkerson. I would never do that except before 9am and after 10 every day.


I have yet to personally meet somebody who did a money shift. [/QUOTE

It does happen. Hang out at the track and you will eventually find it. People who skip shift often at greater risk.


And I would choose a used gt3. Its not his daily and that's what I want and so should he.
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I'm not saying it doesn't happen, but to make this an argument in favor of the GT-R is just silly.

I also like to point out that I'm a huge GT-R fan... anybody who has been around long enough knows that, in fact just recently I made a case for the GT-R again, I just responded to the comments regarding the GT-R, the modded M3, and the 911 turbo.
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I didn't bash the warranty, I also didn't bring it up in the first place, but I remember when Nissan was a little bitch about using launch control and the warranty mess resulting in it. So if a poster brings up the question of warranty I think it is fair to mention that Nissan doesn't have the best track record.
those were first model year cars using LC1 and Nissan did eventually replace those trannys
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I didn't bash the warranty, I also didn't bring it up in the first place, but I remember when Nissan was a little bitch about using launch control and the warranty mess resulting in it. So if a poster brings up the question of warranty I think it is fair to mention that Nissan doesn't have the best track record.
Nissan's warranty on the GTR has always been fine. They explicitly said launching the 09 would void the warranty. Yet there were still some that repeatedly launched the car and whined when the tranny went south. FWIW, the 09 could handle a lot of abuse.
My only gripe about the newer ones is that Nissan now allows use of LC but have tightened the optimal operating parameters so much that the car will go into a hobble mode if you run it a little hot. I have had this issue on both my '12 and '13.
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I did say that money shifts happen... but I said that it is hardly an argument against the 911T or M3, or an argument for the GT-R.

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That's your choice, I only drink on days that end in Y myself. How is it hanging out with a 100 year old cougar?
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I actually just dealt with that. I had an M3 and spent around $60K worth of mods on it over a 3 year period. When I parted out the car I mostly got back 70 cents to the dollar on the mods - not too bad if you ask me. The rest wasn't money lost, but an investment towards my happiness.
Hi highly doubt most people get 70 cents on the dollar when selling their used mods. The average is probably more 50-60 cents on the dollar. Obviously one should do whatever makes you happy. But IMHO it is much better to have a nicer car, with warranty, than to buy something less expensive and drop a ton into mods. I have gone that route before many times and obviously everyone will have their own opinion on it.
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