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dreamk · 10-03-2007, 10:48 AM

i would never imagine that Lexus would come up with something like this!!
http://www.lexus.com/isf/isf/specs.html
what do you think?
will it beat the new m3? or is lexus trying to match up to the all mighty m3?

swiss_cornholio · 10-03-2007, 11:01 AM

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Originally Posted by dreamk

i would never imagine that Lexus would come up with something like this!!
http://www.lexus.com/isf/isf/specs.html
what do you think?
will it beat the new m3? or is lexus trying to match up to the all mighty m3?

If it looks like a pile of crap it doesn't really matter that it's powered by a 5l V8...

Case closed.

bambam · 10-03-2007, 11:05 AM

specs looks good on paper.

look like crap but e92 m3 is no supermodel either. chances are it will come in 3rd after M3 and Audi. Skylline is in another league.

Noize · 10-03-2007, 11:09 AM

No: 8-Speed Sport Direct-Shift (SPDS) gear box
Upshifts as quick as 0.1 seconds (manual mode)

The E92 M3 rolled out as a true manual because its a driver's car.

keanu1 · 10-03-2007, 11:28 AM

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Originally Posted by dreamk

i would never imagine that Lexus would come up with something like this!!
http://www.lexus.com/isf/isf/specs.html
what do you think?
will it beat the new m3? or is lexus trying to match up to the all mighty m3?

it looks ugly!! i hope it's wrilly close to m3 so bmw would do somthing much better

Keto · 10-03-2007, 11:39 AM

Don't look at it from the back.... yuck.

dreamk · 10-03-2007, 11:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Keto

Don't look at it from the back.... yuck.

i agree

JEllis · 10-03-2007, 12:05 PM

No likey

Jimmyz · 10-03-2007, 12:17 PM

Its ugly as crap, especially from the side and rear.

swamp2 · 10-03-2007, 12:17 PM

I like the view from the front. As with the new E92 M3, which has grown on many of us, I think this car may do that as well. I don't think it will be much competition for the M3s performance but that is based on an estimate of its weight.

-Nice torque figure 350+ ft lb
-Nice brake specs (lots of pistons - will look good - does not guarantee good performance)
-8 speed trany - cool, auto only - not cool
-19s stock - cool
-VDIM - cool

Would really like to know:

-Weight
-Redline
-Price
-N'ring time

!Xoible · 10-03-2007, 12:19 PM

regardless of performance figures and all this car is ugly to the 9th degree. i dont care how fast it is

Sedan_Clan · 10-03-2007, 01:10 PM

I have mixed opinions, and I lack faith in Lexus to bring to the table a true driver's product.

stressdoc · 10-03-2007, 01:15 PM

It's a Japanese Pony Car. A luxury Mustang. Light years behind the Nissan GTR or even the Evo in road performance.

dechoong · 10-03-2007, 02:09 PM

Not sure if this video has already been posted, it's the IS-F at Laguna Seca (I think... it looks like the cork screw in the video).

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WGTVOT2R3xg

Definitely has loads of torque from its 5L engine, but how it delivers its power to the redline is still questionable. I remember test driving the old IS years back... good mid range flexibility but asthmatic and coarse as it closes in on the redline.

SS32 · 10-03-2007, 02:41 PM

Auto - no gracias
8 speed tranny - sounds kind of gimmicky to me. There's probably a reason BMW, Merc, and most importantly, F1 are all doing 7 speeds.

And from that vid it looks like it has loads of understeer until they finally power it into oversteer.

misterng · 10-03-2007, 02:51 PM

Why IS-F and C63 have fog lights on their V8, but not M3?

mkoesel · 10-03-2007, 02:52 PM

Every single cosmetic change made from the IS350 to get to this was ill conceived. I'm sure its possible to make an IS look meaner and more extreme, but they could not have gotten it more wrong.

Sedan_Clan · 10-03-2007, 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by misterng

Why IS-F and C63 have fog lights on their V8, but not M3?

Maybe because they are rarely used?

mkoesel · 10-03-2007, 02:57 PM

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Originally Posted by swamp2

Would really like to know:

-Weight
-Redline
-Price
-N'ring time

Well you can get a Neiman Marcus edition for $68k.

http://www.autoblog.com/2007/10/02/n...ld-lexus-is-f/

dechoong · 10-03-2007, 03:06 PM

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Originally Posted by mkoesel

Well you can get a Neiman Marcus edition for $68k.

http://www.autoblog.com/2007/10/02/n...ld-lexus-is-f/

They've got to be kidding

I don't mind the Mark Levinson audio though... one of the best in car sound system I've heard

TuvaD · 10-03-2007, 04:29 PM

Looks like they bolted on some aftermarket parts that fell off the back of a truck!

Knowing Lexus though, it will probably have excellent NVH characteristics which will probably win them some sales.

Robert · 10-03-2007, 05:40 PM

the car actually looks pretty nice in person.

10-03-2007, 10:48 AM	#1
dreamk Banned Drives: 335i Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: south nj Posts: 9,965 iTrader: (2) View dreamk's Garage	is the new lexus is-f matching up to the m3? i would never imagine that Lexus would come up with something like this!! http://www.lexus.com/isf/isf/specs.html what do you think? will it beat the new m3? or is lexus trying to match up to the all mighty m3?

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10-03-2007, 12:17 PM	#10
swamp2 Major General Drives: E92 M3 Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: San Diego, CA USA Posts: 6,527 iTrader: (1)	Various I like the view from the front. As with the new E92 M3, which has grown on many of us, I think this car may do that as well. I don't think it will be much competition for the M3s performance but that is based on an estimate of its weight. -Nice torque figure 350+ ft lb -Nice brake specs (lots of pistons - will look good - does not guarantee good performance) -8 speed trany - cool, auto only - not cool -19s stock - cool -VDIM - cool Would really like to know: -Weight -Redline -Price -N'ring time

10-03-2007, 01:15 PM	#13
stressdoc Moderator Drives: 335 E90 ZSP+ Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: MO Posts: 8,554 iTrader: (0)	It's a Japanese Pony Car. A luxury Mustang. Light years behind the Nissan GTR or even the Evo in road performance. __________________ My not-so-recent ED: http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=31829 Quaife, BMW Perf & M3 suspension, M-sport, ... If you join BMWCCA - plz use 300279 as referral #

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SS32 Major Drives: 08 M3, 87 325 Join Date: May 2007 Location: Raleighwood, NC Posts: 1,330 iTrader: (0)	Auto - no gracias 8 speed tranny - sounds kind of gimmicky to me. There's probably a reason BMW, Merc, and most importantly, F1 are all doing 7 speeds. And from that vid it looks like it has loads of understeer until they finally power it into oversteer. __________________ V1 DIY - Blinder M45 DIY - Exhaust Cutouts - Removed Clutch Pedal Spring DIY - Fiamm Air Horns

10-03-2007, 11:05 AM	#3
bambam Enlisted Member Drives: M3 Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: VA Posts: 39 iTrader: (0)	specs looks good on paper. look like crap but e92 m3 is no supermodel either. chances are it will come in 3rd after M3 and Audi. Skylline is in another league.

10-03-2007, 11:09 AM	#4
Noize Under the radar Drives: FWD in reverse Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: In traffic at idle Posts: 841 iTrader: (1)	No: 8-Speed Sport Direct-Shift (SPDS) gear box Upshifts as quick as 0.1 seconds (manual mode) The E92 M3 rolled out as a true manual because its a driver's car.

10-03-2007, 11:39 AM	#6
Keto Major Drives: 08 E92 M3 IB DCT Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: N'awlins Posts: 1,059 iTrader: (1)	Don't look at it from the back.... yuck.

10-03-2007, 12:17 PM	#9
Jimmyz Second Lieutenant Drives: E92 M3 or Audi S5 (soon!) Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: NY Posts: 255 iTrader: (0)	Its ugly as crap, especially from the side and rear.

10-03-2007, 12:19 PM	#11
!Xoible Banned Drives: .... Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: . Posts: 1,669 iTrader: (4) View !Xoible's Garage	regardless of performance figures and all this car is ugly to the 9th degree. i dont care how fast it is

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Sedan_Clan Capoeirista Extraordinaire! Drives: Interlagos E90 ///M3 Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: The Twilight Zone! Or running your plates... Posts: 3,231 iTrader: (2)	I have mixed opinions, and I lack faith in Lexus to bring to the table a true driver's product.

10-03-2007, 02:09 PM	#14
dechoong First Lieutenant Drives: E60 530 Sport Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: KL Posts: 359 iTrader: (0)	Not sure if this video has already been posted, it's the IS-F at Laguna Seca (I think... it looks like the cork screw in the video). http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WGTVOT2R3xg Definitely has loads of torque from its 5L engine, but how it delivers its power to the redline is still questionable. I remember test driving the old IS years back... good mid range flexibility but asthmatic and coarse as it closes in on the redline.

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misterng Colonel Drives: 2006 E90 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Bay Area Posts: 2,462 iTrader: (0) View misterng's Garage	Why IS-F and C63 have fog lights on their V8, but not M3? __________________ 2006 BMW 330i - Delivered 9/16/06 Black Sapphire \| Terra + Poplar \| Sport \| Premium \| PDC Blacklines \| 189 Wheels \| CF Front Lips \| Euro Headlights \| Rear Fog Lights

10-03-2007, 02:52 PM	#17
mkoesel Major General Drives: IB/PS M-DCT E93 M3 Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Canton, MI Posts: 6,774 iTrader: (1)	Every single cosmetic change made from the IS350 to get to this was ill conceived. I'm sure its possible to make an IS look meaner and more extreme, but they could not have gotten it more wrong. __________________ 2008 Interlagos Blue E93 M3 - M-DCT, no ZTP 2007 Montego Blue E90 335i - 6MT, ZSP

10-03-2007, 04:29 PM	#21
TuvaD Member Drives: M3 ZCP Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: San Francisco Posts: 10 iTrader: (0)	Looks like they bolted on some aftermarket parts that fell off the back of a truck! Knowing Lexus though, it will probably have excellent NVH characteristics which will probably win them some sales.

10-03-2007, 05:40 PM	#22
Robert Major General Drives: 135i, current is350 Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Socal Posts: 5,489 iTrader: (1)	the car actually looks pretty nice in person.