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      10-02-2007, 04:49 PM   #1
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Arrow Reaction from "M3 Experience at the Nurburgring" driving event

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Hey guys, this will be a short report because its late here and there is an early start tomorrow.

BMW is really treating us well and have put together a fantastic program.

The hotel looks out right onto the Nurburgring GP track, with a view also of the first turn of the Nordschliefe. When I arrived, a different group was on the track at speed. It was really an experience to see and hear the car driven in anger. It sounds fantastic! Very exotic and powerful sounding, especially from outside of the car.

Last night there was a dinner and reception in the BMW VIP lounge at the GP track. There was a presentation about the ring and the racing success of the M3. Then we went down to a specially prepared garage at the track that had the M3 under a sheet ready to be unveiled. Champagne was served and the car was unveiled. It looks muscular and rather brutal in white. One of the designers talked about the exterior design of the car and how form really does follow function.

This morning started with another presentation in the garage with focus on the technology of the car and the differences between it and the 335. Much effort was spent reducing weight while also providing increased stiffness. (I'm talking about the car here . . . ) I tried to get info about the "alternative" transmission but all I spoke with were very tight lipped. I do know it will have seven speeds. I do not know if it will be DSG or SMG. I also asked about Pilot Sport Cup + tires. I was told they are newly developed and "will" be available to order, at least here in Germany.

Then we took the cars out on the track to warm them up and them on the various exercises (drifting, slalom, braking, ideal line). After lunch we had lapping sessions in a lead-follow format.

Guys, all I can say is that this car is fantastic. To me it does not seem as "wild" as the E46 because of the way the S54 builds power at high revs, but the E92 certainly is quicker and faster. It also handles and brakes (race pads still) very, very well. It is a big car, but it is suited to track use. EDC works well, as does M Dynamic mode. As far as I am concerned, the car is a "buy". It is a significant improvement over the E46.

Tomorrow we tour the M Testing facility here in Nurburg, visit the Nordschliefe museum, take a (passenger) lap on the Nordshliefe, etc. Thursday is another day of driving.

I will update later when I have an opportunity.
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      10-02-2007, 05:29 PM   #2
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Thanks ILC32. Please take pics and keep us posted.
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Wow you lucky dog! Fantastic! By the way are you paying or a guest of BMW on their dollar (euro)?
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      10-02-2007, 06:31 PM   #4
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Sick! I am so jealous.
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      10-02-2007, 07:32 PM   #5
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Wow, sounds like a first class experience! Enjoy and thanks for keeping us posted !
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      10-02-2007, 08:06 PM   #6
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Thanks for the very appreciated report. I am extremely jealous.
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      10-02-2007, 08:26 PM   #7
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Thanks for taking the time to post during the event, and don't you come back to the US without US pricing details!

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      10-02-2007, 08:31 PM   #8
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I heard it's starting 80k now ;-) Pass the word on.
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      10-02-2007, 09:34 PM   #9
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I heard it's starting 80k now ;-) Pass the word on.
Not going to happen.
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      10-03-2007, 09:34 AM   #12
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Aha, here is your post

Thank you for the play-by-play. Look forward to hearing more!
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Not going to happen.
haha it was a joke mocking the price speculation.
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      10-03-2007, 08:07 PM   #14
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Mr. ILC32, how in the heck did you get the opportunity to do all this testing and hotel staying on behalf of BMW?

What kind of job or assignment are you completing in the process of doing this?

Are you a journalist or whaT?!

Anyways, thanks for sharing your experience thus far.
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      10-04-2007, 03:22 AM   #15
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Great ILC32.

I have posted this on GCZ


Keep us updated. Ask them about M3 CSL
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Is it Thursday yet
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Thanks for the report, ILC. I'm jealous.
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      10-05-2007, 06:14 PM   #18
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Back in the USA

Just made it back home. I will prepare a lengthy report in a day or so. Short summary: the event was fantastic and the car is truly outstanding.

The lap of the Nordshliefe in the E92 M3 was really unbelieveable, driven by an M test engineer. We even got air!

I have a few tidbits from the M testing facility to share that I think some of you will find interesting. One preview: We were told that M determined that the Pilot Sport Cup tires accounted for 20 seconds of the ring time difference between the E46 CSL and the E46 M3. . .

More later.
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Any news on the sedan bro?
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Here are a few pictures from the trip.

We stayed at the Dorint Hotel at the Nurburgring. The rooms looked right out onto the Nurburgring GP track and Nordshleife:

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On Monday night, there was a dinner in the BMW VIP suite at the GP circuit:

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After dinner there was a presentation covering the Nordshleife and BMW's history of motorsport success:

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After dinner and the presentation, we were taken to one of the GP circuit garages for the presentation of the M3:

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We were given champagne and there was a presentation on the exterior design elements of the car. I did not get any really good pictures of the presentation car, but it was white with 19s and it looked stunning.

There were also dispalys of various technical components of the car, including the carbon roof:

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The next morning started early at the GP track. It was stunning to see all of the M3s ready for action:

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We drove the cars on the track in various exercises and for complete laps of the "sprint" version of the GP circuit. The car really sounds amazing.
The brakes (with race pads) withstood continuous lapping with no detectable fade. We were not permitted to drive with DSC completely off, but I found that M dynamic mode allowed a good amount of slip and rotation before interfering. I found that the car "worked" best with EDC in "normal" mode. (More about this later. . .)

The next day, we had a tour of the GP circuit and visited the Nurburgring museum. We took a tour of the M testing center in Nurburg, which included a very informative and interesting presentation by the engineer in chanrge of suspension and kinematics for all M cars. Later that day, we had a go-kart competition, which actually turned out to be a lot of fun and very competitive.

To be continued. . .
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The third day, we did more exercises and lapping on the GP circuit. We also visited holy ground for car enthusiasts, the Nordshleife. We were taken on hot laps in M3s by M instuctors and development engineers. There were two participants to each car. As fantastic as it was to drive the M3 on the GP track, for me the highlight was the Nordshleife. Our driver, Robert, was a true ring-meister who had ultimate car control, and treated us to drifts and even some air.

While we were there, Martin Birkmann, our kind host and BMWNA M Brand Manager, was arranging for filming a hot lap of the Nordshleife. Martin himself drove the white M3, and a race driver drove the red car with the more extensive camera rig.


then we headed back to the GP circuit for more lapping. Finally, all too soon, it was over. One last look and the cars before leaving for Frankfurt:

Tomorrow or the day after I will close this series with some insights about the car, BMW M, and the trip itself.
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      10-06-2007, 09:06 PM   #22
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thats real nice. what do you do?? hell, i live in germany and i cant get into these type of events. who do you have to go through to get in this event?
ide like to test the M3 on the nurburger ring.
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