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      08-01-2013, 03:50 PM   #1
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Wider tires & traction control

I was at the dealership today getting my MPE & BMC air filter installed and inquired about running a wider tire in the front & rear 255/35/19 f 275/35/19 r and the service advisor informed me that it could interfer with your traction control. (throwing codes & what not) For all of you with wider tires, has anyone had any issues with there traction control?
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No issues if you run the right sizes. Your proposed sizes will work great.
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No issues if you run the right sizes. Your proposed sizes will work great.
Good to know, thanks Slicer for the input!
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I was at the dealership today getting my MPE & BMC air filter installed and inquired about running a wider tire in the front & rear 255/35/19 f 275/35/19 r and the service advisor informed me that it could interfer with your traction control. (throwing codes & what not) For all of you with wider tires, has anyone had any issues with there traction control?
FYI....most service advisors don't know crap about the actual engineering of a car or its component systems. Of course there are exceptions to this, but you would be best advised to do your own research before believing anything a service advisor tells you.
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I was at the dealership today getting my MPE & BMC air filter installed and inquired about running a wider tire in the front & rear 255/35/19 f 275/35/19 r and the service advisor informed me that it could interfer with your traction control. (throwing codes & what not) For all of you with wider tires, has anyone had any issues with there traction control?
FYI....most service advisors don't know crap about the actual engineering of a car or its component systems. Of course there are exceptions to this, but you would be best advised to do your own research before believing anything a service advisor tells you.
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FYI....most service advisors don't know crap about the actual engineering of a car or its component systems. Of course there are exceptions to this, but you would be best advised to do your own research before believing anything a service advisor tells you.
Yeah, this is what I'm beginning to see!
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Im running 295's on stock 19's. Never had a problem.
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Im running 295's on stock 19's. Never had a problem.
What size are you running up front?
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What size are you running up front?
255/35/19 front

295/30/19 rear

All PSS tires. I get a lot of grief on here for running 295's on stock 19's but 20k miles later no problems and the wide look in the back is awesome.
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i'm running those sizes right now on PSS and i have yet to see the traction control light go on
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I was at the dealership today getting my MPE & BMC air filter installed and inquired about running a wider tire in the front & rear 255/35/19 f 275/35/19 r and the service advisor informed me that it could interfer with your traction control. (throwing codes & what not) For all of you with wider tires, has anyone had any issues with there traction control?
Running incorrect sizes can interfere with some of the car's systems such as ABS. For example, if you run a square 275 35 19 F and 275 35 19 R, the car will think something is wrong because the back wheels should be spinning slower than the fronts because of the factory staggar.

A 255 35 19 and 275 35 19 is what I run with PSS and will not interfere at all.

It's all about maintaining the appropriate ratio.
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255/35/19 front

295/30/19 rear

All PSS tires. I get a lot of grief on here for running 295's on stock 19's but 20k miles later no problems and the wide look in the back is awesome.
I have been wanting to do this for a while but would like to see it in person. You going to Cars and Coffee tomorrow? If not maybe we could meet up sometime. I am in Mooresville
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I have been wanting to do this for a while but would like to see it in person. You going to Cars and Coffee tomorrow? If not maybe we could meet up sometime. I am in Mooresville

Prob not. I work out at the Planet Fitness in Mooresville though. So im there often enough.
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Running incorrect sizes can interfere with some of the car's systems such as ABS. For example, if you run a square 275 35 19 F and 275 35 19 R, the car will think something is wrong because the back wheels should be spinning slower than the fronts because of the factory staggar.

A 255 35 19 and 275 35 19 is what I run with PSS and will not interfere at all.

It's all about maintaining the appropriate ratio.
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Running incorrect sizes can interfere with some of the car's systems such as ABS. For example, if you run a square 275 35 19 F and 275 35 19 R, the car will think something is wrong because the back wheels should be spinning slower than the fronts because of the factory staggar.

A 255 35 19 and 275 35 19 is what I run with PSS and will not interfere at all.

It's all about maintaining the appropriate ratio.
I have a square setup for autox (BFG Rivals), and I've driven them at numerous events along with maybe 2k miles of road use, and I've had zero issues like you've claimed. ABS works fine, no issues at all. The car has no issues with a square setup in my experience so far.
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I have a square setup for autox (BFG Rivals), and I've driven them at numerous events along with maybe 2k miles of road use, and I've had zero issues like you've claimed. ABS works fine, no issues at all. The car has no issues with a square setup in my experience so far.
Actually that's great to hear because I just purchased wheels/tires for the track @ 275 35 18 F and 285 35 18 R and Apex EC-7's 18x10 F and 18x11 R and figured it wasn't enough staggar and would trip ABS, etc. Others have claimed this to occur so I'm going off their feedback.

From personal experience, I have had ABS and DSC turn themselves off at the track from spinning the rear tires continuously. It was 100 degrees and I just couldn't get traction as the rears were spinning for a couple of laps until finally my NAV screen just lit up like a christmas tree and just about every function gave out. And it wasn't joking...all the systems were turned off. Because of this, the car didn't save me on a mistake and I went off track - it was in a thread I posted in the track section in early June.
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A lot of the guys here are simply by the book on tire sizes without the experience of practical application.
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I ran those sizes on 359's and 220's with PSS's. I only noticed a little less response in handling...not as crisp. You should ask your SA what codes it would throw going +1 with the same stagger as stock.
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Thanks for all the feedback everybody, I decided to stay conservative and run 245/35/19 f and 275/35/19 r on M Super Sports. Running Vossen wheels 19x8.5 f
19x10 r

I called and talked to a tech at tire rack & he said 255 would be fine up front & that I could go as wide as 295 r. However I went down to dicount tire and talk to a tech & he didn't recommend me going over 245 in front and said I could go up to 295 r however he would not go higher than 285.
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If you don't have a supercharger I really ask why? As someone noted above you get less crisp turn-in and feel. You add more weight to the most important part of rotating mass on the car in terms of power robbing and handling robbing (rotating mass at the exterior of the hub which is the tire is the worst place to add weight) and unless you have a supercharger where you need the rubber I ask why people do this? If it is just for looks ok. But otherwise not sure why?
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If you don't have a supercharger I really ask why? As someone noted above you get less crisp turn-in and feel. You add more weight to the most important part of rotating mass on the car in terms of power robbing and handling robbing (rotating mass at the exterior of the hub which is the tire is the worst place to add weight) and unless you have a supercharger where you need the rubber I ask why people do this? If it is just for looks ok. But otherwise not sure why?
? I'm not sure I follow you ..... 245/35/19 is what my car came with up front stock & that's what I'm staying with however I'm going from 265/35/19 in the rear to 275/35/19. The person who was talking about the car being less crisp was running 255/35/19 f. And what does a supercharger have to do with it? Most people do it for looks, for it gives the car a more aggressive stance.
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