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      08-19-2013, 04:04 AM   #155
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      08-19-2013, 01:26 PM   #156
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Yes, because I made the whole story up to be popular on a car board. Dolt.

Just don't like Japanese cars. The GTR is a cool car, but I'm sorry, I'm not spending $100k+ on a Nissan. A GT3 is still considered one of the greatest handling cars in the world and it has the pedigree and decades of proven engineering and innovation. To each his own.
Ok.


I can kill one part of your argument with this comment you made:

"proven engineering and innovation."

When the GTR was initially introduced, its benchmark was the 911 turbo..to out perform it.
It succeeded (At 75-80k lol brand new). Then magazines started upping the anty with higher end Pcars because the base 911 turbo at that time was essentially embarrassed.


"I'm not spending $100k+ on a Nissan."

This is a name brand..badge whore comment. Plain and simple.
Nissan is not Hyundai. Especially with Nissans Racing heritage (Yes, they have one too). Plus..im pretty sure someone who purchases a GTR can afford an M3.


"A GT3 is still considered one of the greatest handling cars in the world"

The GTR is steadying making its way towards that claim.
You harp alot on the GT3 when it wasnt even mentioned in this thread at all. We know you hate hearing any good thing about the GTR, but the GTR isnt going anywhere.

I think it will eventually catch the GT3 in handling.

Magic Johnson was (And Larry Bird) was THE man in the NBA. They were gods. They had pedigree(college, Championships), Went to the lakers, a legendary team, bird the celts..legendary team. They ruled the 80s. They had shoe deals with converse, magic is the best point guard in nba history, bird, one of the best 3pt shooters in nba history, not to mention playmaking etc.



Then came along a guy named "Micheal Jordan".



End of story.

See where im going with this?
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      08-19-2013, 02:16 PM   #157
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Yes, because I made the whole story up to be popular on a car board. Dolt.

Just don't like Japanese cars. The GTR is a cool car, but I'm sorry, I'm not spending $100k+ on a Nissan. A GT3 is still considered one of the greatest handling cars in the world and it has the pedigree and decades of proven engineering and innovation. To each his own.
To each their own. However, Nissan is perfectly capable of engineering technically competent sports cars and race vehicles. At this point, the only real differentiators between the GT-R and similarly performing vehicles are feel and cache.

Don't discount the GT-R just because Nissan makes it. The car is a performer.
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Ok.


I can kill one part of your argument with this comment you made:

"proven engineering and innovation."

When the GTR was initially introduced, its benchmark was the 911 turbo..to out perform it.
It succeeded (At 75-80k lol brand new). Then magazines started upping the anty with higher end Pcars because the base 911 turbo at that time was essentially embarrassed.


"I'm not spending $100k+ on a Nissan."

This is a name brand..badge whore comment. Plain and simple.
Nissan is not Hyundai. Especially with Nissans Racing heritage (Yes, they have one too). Plus..im pretty sure someone who purchases a GTR can afford an M3.


"A GT3 is still considered one of the greatest handling cars in the world"

The GTR is steadying making its way towards that claim.
You harp alot on the GT3 when it wasnt even mentioned in this thread at all. We know you hate hearing any good thing about the GTR, but the GTR isnt going anywhere.

I think it will eventually catch the GT3 in handling.

Magic Johnson was (And Larry Bird) was THE man in the NBA. They were gods. They had pedigree(college, Championships), Went to the lakers, a legendary team, bird the celts..legendary team. They ruled the 80s. They had shoe deals with converse, magic is the best point guard in nba history, bird, one of the best 3pt shooters in nba history, not to mention playmaking etc.



Then came along a guy named "Micheal Jordan".



End of story.

See where im going with this?
I love your analogy
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      08-19-2013, 03:38 PM   #159
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Ok.


I can kill one part of your argument with this comment you made:

"proven engineering and innovation."

When the GTR was initially introduced, its benchmark was the 911 turbo..to out perform it.
It succeeded (At 75-80k lol brand new). Then magazines started upping the anty with higher end Pcars because the base 911 turbo at that time was essentially embarrassed.


"I'm not spending $100k+ on a Nissan."

This is a name brand..badge whore comment. Plain and simple.
Nissan is not Hyundai. Especially with Nissans Racing heritage (Yes, they have one too). Plus..im pretty sure someone who purchases a GTR can afford an M3.


"A GT3 is still considered one of the greatest handling cars in the world"

The GTR is steadying making its way towards that claim.
You harp alot on the GT3 when it wasnt even mentioned in this thread at all. We know you hate hearing any good thing about the GTR, but the GTR isnt going anywhere.

I think it will eventually catch the GT3 in handling.

Magic Johnson was (And Larry Bird) was THE man in the NBA. They were gods. They had pedigree(college, Championships), Went to the lakers, a legendary team, bird the celts..legendary team. They ruled the 80s. They had shoe deals with converse, magic is the best point guard in nba history, bird, one of the best 3pt shooters in nba history, not to mention playmaking etc.



Then came along a guy named "Micheal Jordan".



End of story.

See where im going with this?
Wow. End of story. Quite impressed with yourself.

First, I didn't buy a M3 because of the badge. I've owned American muscle cars in the 70's that I've tuned. I'm not a 20 year old. I also had an '06 300C SRT-8 that I tuned and put on VIR. And had (2) 135i's after that. I don't give a shit about the name. My comment on the Nissan brand is that if I had $100k to spend, it wouldn't be on a GT-R. Again, that's my preference. I never said the car was inferior, from everything I've read, it performs well. It's also AWD. Again, I driven Audi's on the track and didn't like it. The same argument goes for a Corvette. It has destroyed cars costing 4-5x more, but I wouldn't own one. Not just my opinion, but it is considered the best bang for your buck.

The Porsche has years of experience performing on the track with the GT3. I highly doubt the GT-R will catch and surpass it. Do you really think Porsche will allow to happen? But, of course, you'll have another analogy to prove me wrong. I'll just say in advance that you're smarter than me.
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      08-19-2013, 06:33 PM   #160
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Wow. End of story. Quite impressed with yourself.

First, I didn't buy a M3 because of the badge. I've owned American muscle cars in the 70's that I've tuned. I'm not a 20 year old. I also had an '06 300C SRT-8 that I tuned and put on VIR. And had (2) 135i's after that. I don't give a shit about the name. My comment on the Nissan brand is that if I had $100k to spend, it wouldn't be on a GT-R. Again, that's my preference. I never said the car was inferior, from everything I've read, it performs well. It's also AWD. Again, I driven Audi's on the track and didn't like it. The same argument goes for a Corvette. It has destroyed cars costing 4-5x more, but I wouldn't own one. Not just my opinion, but it is considered the best bang for your buck.

The Porsche has years of experience performing on the track with the GT3. I highly doubt the GT-R will catch and surpass it. Do you really think Porsche will allow to happen? But, of course, you'll have another analogy to prove me wrong. I'll just say in advance that you're smarter than me.
Ok, i can see where the where the badgewhore comment caused some butthurtness. I shouldn't have said that.

As far as my analogies go, if you couldnt see the point i was trying to make with Magic and Bird, then youll NEVER see my point.

Im beginning to see some of what you are saying which directs my response to something else in your rebuttal.

You said,

"The Porsche has years of experience performing on the track with the GT3. I highly doubt the GT-R will catch and surpass it. Do you really think Porsche will allow to happen?"

They did with the 911 turbo....

Again, that was their benchmark. Their base.
Its a mighty bold comment to say what you feel these companies WONT do.

Now that the GTR is rising in price and performance and cost, the sky is the limit as they are moving away from the GTR being the affordable super car.
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      08-22-2013, 12:36 PM   #161
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GT-R 6th - Cayman - 5th - 911S - 1st. Just sayin'...

http://www.motortrend.com/features/p..._r_track_.html

Very respectable, though. I'm sure Nissan will pass Porsche one day to win this.
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GT-R 6th - Cayman - 5th - 911S - 1st. Just sayin'...

http://www.motortrend.com/features/p..._r_track_.html

Very respectable, though. I'm sure Nissan will pass Porsche one day to win this.
You also know the GT-R was faster than most of the cars that were rated higher than it in the comparison. That's what the car is, it is a rocket built for speed. If you want refinement and balance, look elsewhere. The Motor Trend article is about that balance so of course it won't come in high.
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You also know the GT-R was faster than most of the cars that were rated higher than it in the comparison. That's what the car is, it is a rocket built for speed. If you want refinement and balance, look elsewhere. The Motor Trend article is about that balance so of course it won't come in high.
That was my point earlier. It is amazing car for what it is designed to do. I give Nissan a lot of credit. I never said the car sucked. But, at this point in my life, I would want more refinement and pedigree and RWD in a track car.
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Although I love the GT-R, I seriously doubt that Nissan will ever pull this off.
That was sarcasm.
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Then came along a guy named "Micheal Jordan".

End of story.

See where im going with this?
Yeah, you don't know how to spell the G.O.A.T.'s name. *smh*
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Out of all the cars I see on my drives, few garner as much of my attention as the GT-R. I love their looks and for their price, they can't be beat. That said, I'd take a slightly used C63 BS for $108k over a new GTR but I saw my first BS on the road today and can't stop thinking about it. Haha
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Then came along a guy named "Micheal Jordan".

End of story.

See where im going with this?
Yeah, you don't know how to spell the G.O.A.T.'s name. *smh*
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100k War is tight. GTR, 991 C2S, C63 Black...Damn

Loaded M4 with ceramics will be what? 90?
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Yeah, you don't know how to spell the G.O.A.T.'s name. *smh*
My bad.
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For most fun, IMO: C63 BS>991C2S=GTR
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For most fun, IMO: C63 BS>991C2S=GTR
is that hooliganism? c63 just burns out everywhere.
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Most people don't track their cars and neither do I. I wish that I could be I only have a dragstrip and the nearest track is ~200 miles away. So I'd like a car that can be used to as close to its fullest extent on the roads. GTRs and 911s have too high a limit and one that's certainly unattainable on public roads. A C63 BS is nuts at 40 MPH if you want it to be. I have an M3 because it's a great DD with an amazing V8 and superb handling. I firmly believe a C63 BS is more fun than either an M3, GTR, and 911 on public roads.
Though changing tires every 10k miles can get frustrating, lol.
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Oh, what a surprise. I didn't think there would be any butt hurt Porsche phaggs in a gtr thread...
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