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      07-13-2013, 11:54 AM   #1
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Arrow Happy Customer: Michelin Pilot Super Sport - Got 70% Off

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I come at you on a sunny saturday with a positive review of my michelin pilot super sports.

I'll talk about the performance of this tire briefly; it's a great street tire with loads of grip, and awesome hook from a stop to wide open throttle.
Never had traction issues on my M3. This set of 295s shown below were mounted on my CLS, rarely had issuing hooking up with 600 wheel torque (tuned)

Wouldn't recommend them for moderate to heavy track-driving.

So here's where I am really impressed. The tire comes with a 30,000 mile guaranty.

If you come short of your miles they'll refund you a credit on a new set of tires.
In my case a 71.60 % prorated credit
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      07-13-2013, 12:39 PM   #2
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Damn I just replaced some that went out way before that... I don't think I have that warranty though..
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      07-13-2013, 01:45 PM   #3
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was the 70% credit pro rated on how many miles you came short of the 30,000 warranty ?
Sounds like a loophole to get a track tire for cheap even though this isn't the real thing.
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      07-13-2013, 01:46 PM   #4
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So they are guaranteed to last over 30k, or you get a new set of tires?

Meanwhile, you do two trackdays on them and suck them on a pair of new tires? nice...
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was the 70% credit pro rated on how many miles you came short of the 30,000 warranty ?
Sounds like a loophole to get a track tire for cheap even though this isn't the real thing.
Mileage Warranty Exceptions
Split fitments - If your vehicle has tires of different sizes on the front versus the rear axles, your tires cannot be rotated as recommended. Therefore, the mileage warranty on each rear tire will cover half the number of miles as the standard mileage warranty for that particular tire line.
ZP (Zero Pressure) tires - The maximum mileage warranty for ZP tires is 30,000 miles.

additionally b/c we have staggered setups, it's cut to 15,000 miles.
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So they are guaranteed to last over 30k, or you get a new set of tires?

Meanwhile, you do two trackdays on them and suck them on a pair of new tires? nice...
so it other words, he announced to the world he was successful in warranty fraud...great.
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      07-13-2013, 02:42 PM   #7
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so it other words, he announced to the world he was successful in warranty fraud...great.
wheres the fraud in that. manufacture has nothing in writing stating a casual track day is forbidden. do your research before making assumptions
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Mileage Warranty Exceptions
Split fitments - If your vehicle has tires of different sizes on the front versus the rear axles, your tires cannot be rotated as recommended. Therefore, the mileage warranty on each rear tire will cover half the number of miles as the standard mileage warranty for that particular tire line.
ZP (Zero Pressure) tires - The maximum mileage warranty for ZP tires is 30,000 miles.

additionally b/c we have staggered setups, it's cut to 15,000 miles.
Still 30k on the front, but only supposed to warranty 15K on the rear.
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Still 30k on the front, but only supposed to warranty 15K on the rear.
this is correct. however i did not qualify for front tire replacement
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wheres the fraud in that. manufacture has nothing in writing stating a casual track day is forbidden. do your research before making assumptions


That's besides the point, do you think Michelin would agree to having everyone track their tires and having it replaced on their dime?
Obviously not.


You can afford brand new M's and AMG's but can't afford to buy the rubber for em?

Keep on ballin dude.
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wheres the fraud in that. manufacture has nothing in writing stating a casual track day is forbidden. do your research before making assumptions
hmm...the fact they don't offer this warranty for their Cup tires indicate you shouldn't tracking them and claiming warranty...
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hmm...the fact they don't offer this warranty for their Cup tires indicate you shouldn't tracking them and claiming warranty...
+1. It's people abusing warranty who leads manufacturers to refuse legit claims.
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Relevant language from the warranty:
"Tires that are damaged due to . . . use in any racing-related activities, or competitive events . . . are excluded from guarantee."
http://www.michelinman.com/mediabin/...omise_Plan.pdf

HPDEs are at least supposed to be non-competitive (if only for their own insurance reasons)...
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Thumbs down to announcing over the internet that you were able to cheat the system.
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This warranty will soon be removed, as no tire manufacturer can afford to sponsor people's personal racing hobbies.
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I personally would delete this post to keep you from getting in trouble and from ruining the warranty for everyone else.
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I'm getting some PSS tires next week. I don't track my car, but 15k miles sounds like a great guarantee. My Conti's don't last for sh*t. I have less than 22k miles and already need a 3rd set of rear tires.
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+1. It's people abusing warranty who leads manufacturers to refuse legit claims.
and we pay up for products...
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Damn, my rear PSSes were done after about 9500 miles (insides worn down to the cords, rest of the tire would've been ok), and my fronts after 7500 (outsides worn down to the cords, rest of the tire would've been ok) -- but that includes about 6-8 track days per year. I got camber plates up front to hopefully even out the front wear a bit more, and while I don't think there's much I can do about the rear, ~10K miles seems about right from what I'm reading. But I'll probably end up buying a set of APEX EC-7 18x10 ET25 wheels for track duty, especially considering the E9x M3 with fold-down rear seats can swallow 4 tires with room to spare. First set of track tires will probably be the new AD08 R's once they're available in 265/35/18; I figure I've still got some learning before I step up to something like NT01s, plus I'm not sure I want to go quite that high in running costs yet.
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Hello fellow forum members,

I come at you on a sunny saturday with a positive review of my michelin pilot super sports.

I'll talk about the performance of this tire briefly; it's a great street tire with loads of grip, and awesome hook from a stop to wide open throttle.
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So here's where I am really impressed. The tire comes with a 30,000 mile guaranty.

If you come short of your miles they'll refund you a credit on a new set of tires.
In my case a 71.60 % prorated credit
Whats the process of going through the warranty?
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