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      06-14-2013, 04:55 AM   #67
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If that would have been integrated into the BMW then it would have been merging of two giants in there respective fields to create a new one in the big picture.
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      06-14-2013, 08:31 AM   #68
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Let me see If i understand you here.
Your telling me, that your rather be buying a 50.000. car that suit your phone, rather than buying a 300.- phone that syncs with your car?!?
Because a phone should suit the car?
Am i missing something here?
Nope, you aren't missing anything. It's not the phone it's the software platform. Once you have apps, contacts, email, etc setup with android, apple, etc it is difficult to switch and I may not want to switch. Also the OS on each is unique enough that you may develope a strong presence. I have an ipod and its fine but I would never want that OS for my phone. Other people I am sure feel the same way about switching away from apple products. I also use my phone more than my car.

Also I am not saying it would force me to buy another companies car. I saying it would be a reason not to get another BMW. There are many other factors at play.

It's not that strange when you think about it. What if BMW woke up and said we are only offering tan leather in our cars? Don't you think people would jump ship?
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      06-14-2013, 09:00 AM   #69
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I'm just waiting for the 1st speeding ticket to come in the mail, because the NSA sent my info to the local PD. I'm NOT paranoid! Sometimes they really are out to get you.
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      06-15-2013, 04:22 AM   #70
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^^^

Yeah maybe BMW dont want apple to spy on their cars and thier owners?

I just hope that BMW themself dont spy on BMW owners via BMW assist.

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      06-16-2013, 01:02 AM   #71
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Way to go BMW! Let those who still needs to get it right seek help from outside developers...! Meanwhile show them how it's done with a system of your genuine own and set a new benchmark for everybody else to strive for!
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      06-16-2013, 03:19 PM   #72
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Please do not put any ios in our cars. Let them stick to what they do.
I dont give a shit that my phone works with my car. As long as it can make and receive a damn phone call its fine. I wouldnt care if my music didnt play.
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      06-17-2013, 06:42 PM   #73
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I'm happy if things stay status quo. Like many, all my music is on my iPhone, and I love that I can now plug it in and listen to it through my car.
Even contacts are transferred for my phone. What does it leave? Anything else is just decoration.
I don't have an android, but assume it can work the same way with the current system (anyone confirm?)

So once again, why change something that works. Sure Ferrari may have iOS integrated, but I don't need more than what I already have -
...as long as it keeps working!! If either Apple or BMW change something so it no longer works, then there will be much anger from me!
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      06-17-2013, 07:09 PM   #74
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I use Apple, I like Apple, and would like this integration to happen.
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      06-28-2013, 11:35 AM   #75
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PEOPLE: THIS IS NOT ABOUT SUBSTITUTING IOS to iDRIVE.


BMW is being offered the option to give its customers who are Apple products users the choice.

It will be built in but no one will force the user to put up the iOS UI if they don't want to.

I would like to see BMW make iDrive much faster and reduce the lag to close to 0 sec throughout the system.

I have also used the new iDrive Touch and I have seen no reason to be impressed if you are not inputing Asian characters (which is faster than the controller method because it can narrow down possible matches from the strokes).

Last BMW should think about a way to keep its iDrive system current across car generations and designs via software update, at least to cars from the last 5 year models.
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      06-28-2013, 11:52 AM   #76
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yeah exactly. Apple's device interaction concept is completely counter to the BMW iDrive user interaction concept (or any other in-car navigation concept). In-car navigation's main concept is hands free, eyes free, minimum interaction controls. Compared against Apple's user interaction concept of, all eyes, hands, and senses focused on the device and screen.

So why should BMW develop something that goes against all the improvements they made in graphic interface (less sub-menus), touch interface (idrive touch), and voice commands that MINIMIZES physical interaction with the iDrive?


Yeah, that's right, we love the "user experience" so much in BMW, let us drill through 4+ layers of menus to get to anything in iDrive....

And have you used the voice recognition in our cars?
Unless you know the name of the item you need by heart, it won't recognize it. It isn't a natural speech system.

Is it better than MB or some other makes, sure... but look how hard Hyundai of all people is pushing. 2014 and we still can't remote start our engine from the connect app or get a real navigation systems that doesn't suck balls...

Give me Google Now and Google Maps and the iOS look and implementation please.
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      06-28-2013, 12:01 PM   #77
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Yeah, that's right, we love the "user experience" so much in BMW, let us drill through 4+ layers of menus to get to anything in iDrive....

And have you used the voice recognition in our cars?
Unless you know the name of the item you need by heart, it won't recognize it. It isn't a natural speech system.

Is it better than MB or some other makes, sure... but look how hard Hyundai of all people is pushing. 2014 and we still can't remote start our engine from the connect app or get a real navigation systems that doesn't suck balls...

Give me Google Now and Google Maps and the iOS look and implementation please.
your CiC idrive interface may not be ideal for you today, but it's a continued improvement over the last generation idrive. At the end of the day, iOS doesn't bring any value added items in terms of user interface to iDrive that trumps the cost of further development by the BMW.

So I stand by my theory that iOS is completely counter to BMW's hands-free concept for idrive interface. That, and also iOS will continuely become a smaller market share in in the WORLD in the upcoming years, especially in China the world fastest growing auto market.
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      06-28-2013, 12:07 PM   #78
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Love it when people ignore the arguments (or don't understand them) in a discussion.
They are left with repeating what they already said as if it will make more sense.


A decade ago iDrive might have been the coolest thing but today BMW has fallen behind the curve. Its looks are the best of all makes out there but it doesn't perform very well.

You won't even agree that the nav should be thrown out of the window?
Perhaps you don't use it...
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