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      06-02-2013, 04:57 PM   #1
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Best BBk that fits stock 18's?

I think the only choice is the smaller Stoptechs...just confirming.

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Good question.
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380mm stoptechs will fit oem 18's with a spacer
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AP Racing bbk 368mm rotors up fronts

Spacers required with 219Ms
No spacers required with 260Ms

Rears have plenty of space.
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380mm stoptechs will fit oem 18's with a spacer
fr and rr?

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AP Racing bbk 368mm rotors up fronts

Spacers required with 219Ms
No spacers required with 260Ms

Rears have plenty of space.
the 219 are the oem 18" fr wheel?
260 are the owm 18" rr wheel? so i guess i could run a set of rears all around...hmm
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the 219 are the oem 18" fr wheel?
260 are the owm 18" rr wheel? so i guess i could run a set of rears all around...hmm
219m and 260m are two different versions of OEM 18" M3 wheels. Not front and rear of the same wheel. See this thread for some info on fitment

http://www.m3post.com/forums/showthr...+bbk+clearance
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380mm stoptechs will fit oem 18's with a spacer
No spacer required in rear. 12mm spacer required in front for stoptech 380mm trophy. Rear wheels clear front 380mm trophy without spacer.
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fr and rr?



the 219 are the oem 18" fr wheel?
260 are the owm 18" rr wheel? so i guess i could run a set of rears all around...hmm
219Ms (usually what you'd get in the US if you ordered 18s although there are some exceptions) and 260Ms (typically seen on Euro cars) are very similar but slightly different in their spoke design and clearance. Both are OEM 18s.

You could run a square 219M rear setup to get around the need for a spacer up front.

EDIT: Slicer got there before me
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I have the smaller StopTech kit under my stock 18s. Could not be happier.
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260M's started to be fitted to US market 2013's somewhere along the way

I believe the PFC kit is also designed to fit under the stock 18's
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260M's started to be fitted to US market 2013's somewhere along the way

I believe the PFC kit is also designed to fit under the stock 18's
Yes my December build '13 had them.
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I believe the PFC kit is also designed to fit under the stock 18's
Yep, the Performance Friction brake kit (372 mm F, 371 mm R rotors) fits under the stock 18" wheels. No spacers needed. Awesome brake setup, by the way
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Yep, the Performance Friction brake kit (372 mm F, 371 mm R rotors) fits under the stock 18" wheels. No spacers needed. Awesome brake setup, by the way
yeah i am sure...that is what i would want...but MAD expensive. i got quoted like $4500 for the full ST kit and that was for the larger one...

i think ST will prob be the one...or would you do full ST kit vs. just front PF kit if budget is the issue...
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yeah i am sure...that is what i would want...but MAD expensive. i got quoted like $4500 for the full ST kit and that was for the larger one...

i think ST will prob be the one...or would you do full ST kit vs. just front PF kit if budget is the issue...
Depends on what your goals are with your build/goal.

I'm biased but I would go with the PFC F only to begin with and then over time save up for the R kit. The PFC F kit with an equivalent R pad compound in the stock R caliper will perform well on the track.

ST F and R kits will perform well on the street and track.
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      06-12-2013, 05:03 AM   #15
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Yep, the Performance Friction brake kit (372 mm F, 371 mm R rotors) fits under the stock 18" wheels. No spacers needed. Awesome brake setup, by the way
So fits under both the 219Ms and the 260Ms without spacers?
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So fits under both the 219Ms and the 260Ms without spacers?
They fit under the 219M, F and R, without the use of spacers. I do not know what the differences in spoke profile/design are between the 219M and 260M so I do not know if they would fit behind the 260Ms.
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They fit under the 219M, F and R, without the use of spacers. I do not know what the differences in spoke profile/design are between the 219M and 260M so I do not know if they would fit behind the 260Ms.
Thx interesting never considered the PFC BBK for use with stock 18s but at least is another option to the AP Racing kit
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Thx interesting never considered the PFC BBK for use with stock 18s but at least is another option to the AP Racing kit
Not a direct comparison but...On my old track prep'd e46 M3 I was using an AP brake setup (same F caliper that's used in the e9x kit - CP5555 6-piston) and PFC race pads. Although I never had any on track issues with the AP setup, the PFC kit on my e92 M3 has much better modulation, initial bite, and release characteristics as well as overall pedal feel (great for street driving). The AP setup was pretty much an "on-off switch", however, if you prefer a solid pedal then this was a great setup (pedal firmness remained consistent - rock solid!). The PFC caliper is a monobloc design with a fixed bridge so the caliper has to be removed to swap pads. A lot of people apparently prefer a removable bridge because they say it's easier and quicker to change pads - it takes me only < 10 min longer to swap pads in the PFC caliper so personally I would not factor in fixed vs. removable bridge when selecting a brake kit.
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I think the only choice is the smaller Stoptechs...just confirming.

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380mm with 6 piston will fit stock 18" with a 5-10 mm spacer.
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380mm with 6 piston will fit stock 18" with a 5-10 mm spacer.
Any difference between trophy and non-trophy in this regard?
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I think the only choice is the smaller Stoptechs...just confirming.

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Based on my experience with stock 18's I would go for a spacer-less fitment that leaves plenty of room. Which pretty much leaves only the 355 stoptech as your option (maybe pfc too).

I used 12mm spacers with the brembo 365 kit and all looked great until this happened:
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This is the direction I'm leaning now too. 355x35 is still a helluva lot bigger rotor than a 360x30, with a much better and lighter caliper than stock, and no worries at all about debris interference, which is an issue if you're not taking wheels off and inspecting them often. But I'm just looking for an upgrade to do "while I'm in there" once my rotors wear out so I can pretend I'm saving myself money on the kit by offsetting the $850 or so in stock front brake parts, and still want to be able to use my 8.5" 219M's without spacers. But I do have a spare set of 219M's and could use the 9.5's on the front. Ugh. Anything to rationalize a mod...
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