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      05-17-2013, 07:18 AM   #1
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best tires 255/285? (GTS specs)

Hey guys

since i'm really not happy with my Hankooks, i wanna change my tires. the M3 is my weekend car, no DD.

my wheels:

19x9.5 ET 20 245/35/19
19x11 ET25 275/35/19


so i wanna go with larger tires, 255/35/19 and 285/30/19 which are the specs from the M3 GTS.

i favorit tire is the Michelin PSS, but it's not available in 285/30/19

so which is the best tire? Yoko Advan Sport? Pirelli P Zero? or anything else?


thanks for your help!
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Can I ask what was it you didn't like about the hankooks? I assume you are using hankook RS3?
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      05-17-2013, 07:43 AM   #3
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Can I ask what was it you didn't like about the hankooks? I assume you are using hankook RS3?
no, Hankook S1 Evo. only available in Europe. not too much grip and a very soft / spongy feeling in fast curves.

that's the S1 Evo:





the RS3 is not available here
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Is this the best tire spec to go with from stock?

What about 255/35 F and 275/35 R?
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Is this the best tire spec to go with from stock?

What about 255/35 F and 275/35 R?
i have the 275/35 in the rear and it's a bit too strechet on the 19x11" for me.

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      05-17-2013, 09:11 AM   #6
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Oh True, I think my rear is 10.5.

275s are probably perfect on 10s
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I run Pirelli Corsas in 255/285 and they are amazing. A tad aggressive for the street but great for track.
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i have the 275/35 in the rear and it's a bit too strechet on the 19x11" for me.
You could try Yokohama AD08's in 275/35/19 size... that tire runs very square and wide. It may not look as stretched on your 11" wheel. I would also consider Pirelli P-Zero which is available in the 255 / 285 sizes you desire (there is both a Corsa version and a standard version).

I don't know what your suspension set-up is but you could also consider going with 275/30/19 front and 295/30/19 rear. That is the size that I have run in the past but it will require negative camber -1.6 to -2.0. The 295/30/19 will be a challenge to fit in the rear but your 11" wide rear wheel may give you just enough stretch to make it fit. I had 295/30/19 AD08's on 10.5 et22 wheels with Eibach springs and they did rub slightly on large dips in the road.
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      05-17-2013, 11:24 AM   #9
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Thanks for your help. The GTS specs are the maximum i want to drive, cause i want no rubbing and no camber mod.

The P Zero (standart version) was my first choice after the PSS, but cant find any good review about it...
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I like the P-Zero. When they first came out, competing with the PS2, Goodyear GSD3 etc, they were a very strong contender. The biggest complaint on them has been treadwear, even for a Max Performance tire they seem to wear a bit faster than average, but grip and steering response are strong.

They did well on our initial test of them:
http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tests/...&affiliate=AW8

Even in later tests, where they were eclipsed by newer tires, they generally posted good lap times. Demerits were usually on the quiet/comfort side, and they're not quite as strong in the wet as in the dry.

The Advan Sport are at their best in the wet, not as impressive in the dry. I have a set on my old 7 series and they work well in that role, but I'd like to have something with a bit crisper dry handling on an M3.
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They run the same ZCP wheels we get 9x19, 10x19.
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Hey guys

since i'm really not happy with my Hankooks, i wanna change my tires. the M3 is my weekend car, no DD.

my wheels:

19x9.5 ET 20 245/35/19
19x11 ET25 275/35/19


so i wanna go with larger tires, 255/35/19 and 285/30/19 which are the specs from the M3 GTS.

i favorit tire is the Michelin PSS, but it's not available in 285/30/19

so which is the best tire? Yoko Advan Sport? Pirelli P Zero? or anything else?


thanks for your help!
Why not just get get what is on the GTS?
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Hey guys

since i'm really not happy with my Hankooks, i wanna change my tires. the M3 is my weekend car, no DD.

my wheels:

19x9.5 ET 20 245/35/19
19x11 ET25 275/35/19


so i wanna go with larger tires, 255/35/19 and 285/30/19 which are the specs from the M3 GTS.

i favorit tire is the Michelin PSS, but it's not available in 285/30/19

so which is the best tire? Yoko Advan Sport? Pirelli P Zero? or anything else?


thanks for your help!
The bridgestone S04 comes in those sizes and gets good reviews. They will likely be the best option for a good street tire.
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The bridgestone S04 comes in those sizes and gets good reviews. They will likely be the best option for a good street tire.
I would agree. The S04 is probably the closest competitor with the Michelin PSS when it comes to the street tire class. (As many here know, the AD08, RE11, RS3 etc are another class with more track focus and less comfort and wet traction.)

Another good tire that has not gotten a lot of hype is the Continental Sport Contact 5P. Those are very well regarded in Europe. Here in the US we do not get many sizes of that model so they never made a big splash in the marketplace.
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Another good tire that has not gotten a lot of hype is the Continental Sport Contact 5P. Those are very well regarded in Europe. Here in the US we do not get many sizes of that model so they never made a big splash in the marketplace.
Is this the ZCP OE Conti tire on the M3, or a different Conti?
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Your rear is to narrow, especially with your new vt2
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Whaever tire size you choose, you want to stay within 30mm F/R track. Example, if you decide to get a Yoko AD08 295 rear and 255 front make sure you add a 10mm spacer @ the front.

265/295 are most popular. Go Advans AD08 if you're tracking.
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I would agree. The S04 is probably the closest competitor with the Michelin PSS when it comes to the street tire class. (As many here know, the AD08, RE11, RS3 etc are another class with more track focus and less comfort and wet traction.)

Another good tire that has not gotten a lot of hype is the Continental Sport Contact 5P. Those are very well regarded in Europe. Here in the US we do not get many sizes of that model so they never made a big splash in the marketplace.
Disagree on the Bridgestones, at least for street use. They are a very heavy tire and you will feel it. A few years back, I made the switch on my 350Z from Bridgestone to Michelin. Dropped a total of 24 lbs of tire weight, and it felt like a whole new car in terms of responsiveness and suppleness.

Why are Bridgestones so damn heavy, anyway?
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Disagree on the Bridgestones, at least for street use. They are a very heavy tire and you will feel it. A few years back, I made the switch on my 350Z from Bridgestone to Michelin. Dropped a total of 24 lbs of tire weight, and it felt like a whole new car in terms of responsiveness and suppleness.

Why are Bridgestones so damn heavy, anyway?
Its got to be something with wall thickness?
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Disagree on the Bridgestones, at least for street use. They are a very heavy tire and you will feel it. A few years back, I made the switch on my 350Z from Bridgestone to Michelin. Dropped a total of 24 lbs of tire weight, and it felt like a whole new car in terms of responsiveness and suppleness.

Why are Bridgestones so damn heavy, anyway?
One of the reasons I'm hesitant to go from 265 to 275 rear. Gain of 3 lbs per corner. But 24 lbs is completely different level, that's ridiculous.

Of course, if one day I go VT2, I'll have no choice but to go wider tires
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What are the exact tires sizes, brand, and model on the GTS, and are they still available?
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