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      05-08-2013, 09:21 AM   #243
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Personally, I think this car misses the entire point of the M3. What makes the M3 (especially the sedan) great is the fact that it's a practical, comfortable, luxury car that can also be driven spiritedly and tracked.

When you rip the rear seats out, toss in a roll cage, remove the comfortable and adjustable seats, block the trunk pass-through, etc., you've completely destroyed the practical, comfortable, and luxury aspects. I'm sure the car is great on a track, but the street usability has been destroyed. And it's not like it's an all out track car either - if it were, it wouldn't have speakers, iDrive, leather dash, needless alcantara everywhere, etc. And I get the feeling that this car isn't used primarily as a track vehicle.

I guess my issue is that it's form over function. At the end of the day, you have a car that is now less practical than a GT-R, likely slower, and I imagine more expensive. Is it prettier? Sure, minus the mirrors, interior trim and rear diffuser. But I feel the whole purpose of the M3, a vehicle designed from the beginning to be a higher-end and trackable (but still practical) version of a street car, has been defeated.

Just my two cents.
You just hit on just about every exact thought I had about the car... particularly the part about being a caged sedan.

Cosmetically and aesthetically beautiful. Functionally and practicability is horrible.

I remember a time when cars like M3's were modded with form following function. This car is all form, no function. Looks great stopped in pictures, but take it out for a track day and I promise you will be disappointed.

This thread has so far 12 pages of praise and nutt rubbing, so having a few posts pointing out purist critique, opinions, and point of views shouldn't be so concerning to you.

Happy motoring.
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      05-08-2013, 09:22 AM   #244
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love the car.. but i would have opted for GT4 Front lip.
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      05-08-2013, 09:23 AM   #245
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Some people dislike the looks of coupes (me included). So this makes sense even if he has removed the functionality of having back seats...
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      05-08-2013, 09:38 AM   #246
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So much hate in this thread lol. Even if I had a sedan people would never sit in the back so its a moot point arguing about the cage. Who cares guys, it looks amazing and the guy put his heart and soul in the project. Keep it up Felix.
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      05-08-2013, 09:41 AM   #247
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Well Done Sir!! The seat belts are by far the icing on the cake. Well played

I want to see more pics of the interior - like the doors please
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      05-08-2013, 09:41 AM   #248
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So much hate in this thread lol. Even if I had a sedan people would never sit in the back so its a moot point arguing about the cage. Who cares guys, it looks amazing and the guy put his heart and soul in the project. Keep it up Felix.
Thanks Rob, also I would like to point out how correct you are. I have never had anything or anything on that backseat it was literally pointless so I decided to go with a cage and now by having doors back there it's easier to show the cage haha
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      05-08-2013, 09:47 AM   #249
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I think it is a great job on the build...for all the peeps who are hating on it, it's no big deal...let them think what they want. The OP wanted to do something different, in HIS own taste and design, supported and helped by IND, and he got what he wanted...that is the bottom line...like it, hate it, love it...he doesn't care! It is his car.

Powerbeast...well done, well played, keep it up.

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      05-08-2013, 10:01 AM   #250
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Absolutely beautiful!
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      05-08-2013, 10:10 AM   #252
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Why are so many people hating on the mirrors? You have to remember that these are from BMW's race car program. I'm sure BMW spent a ton of time designing them for a reason. I personally think they look great.
The fact that they're race-inspired doesn't necessarily make them great. They're just too odd and out-of-place looking on a street car. It's a similar concept to huge wings on the back of cars - a wing can look great on a DTM car, but not so much on a street vehicle.

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You just hit on just about every exact thought I had about the car... particularly the part about being a caged sedan.

Cosmetically and aesthetically beautiful. Functionally and practicability is horrible.
Yep. The point of my post was to try to foster a discussion like this, as I don't really understand the idea behind taking a practical and spending a lot of money to make it impractical. It seems to me that you'd be better of with an Exige or similar. The whole spirit of the M3 is that you can have a hell of a machine without making the sacrifices that the mods in this vehicle have made.

But, rather than polite dissent and discussion, I suspect the majority of posts addressing my point will be just saying that I'm "wrong," or a "hater," or whatever. Without pointing fingers or trying to start any fights, I've noticed that a large number of posters on here seem to be quite immature - I still don't understand how so many of them manage to afford vehicles that are well outside the grasp of the general public.
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      05-08-2013, 10:22 AM   #253
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Let's just applaud his efforts on creating such a unique M3.

I think it is pointless to bring up subjective matters in this thread especially pertaining to cost and practicality. The is the OP's expression of what he wants the car to be, period.
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      05-08-2013, 10:26 AM   #254
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      05-08-2013, 10:29 AM   #255
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Yep. The point of my post was to try to foster a discussion like this, as I don't really understand the idea behind taking a practical and spending a lot of money to make it impractical. It seems to me that you'd be better of with an Exige or similar. The whole spirit of the M3 is that you can have a hell of a machine without making the sacrifices that the mods in this vehicle have made.

But, rather than polite dissent and discussion, I suspect the majority of posts addressing my point will be just saying that I'm "wrong," or a "hater," or whatever. Without pointing fingers or trying to start any fights, I've noticed that a large number of posters on here seem to be quite immature - I still don't understand how so many of them manage to afford vehicles that are well outside the grasp of the general public.
lol Get out of my head! I could just hug you for putting those words together so perfectly.

Hate is me saying "This car is shit, looks like shit, performs like shit, and it sucks". That is hate.

Critique is me saying that "Yes, the car looks beautiful, however, the modifications done (mostly the cage) has ruined the purpose of a sport sedan. Putting 'motorsport designed' mirrors on a street car is asinine and only contributes to the look of the car, not the function." That is critique.

This car belongs in a Fast & Furious movie. It plays on the appeal of having the unrealistic and impracticable 'street race car'.

Think about it like this, an M3 sedan -roughly $60k, these mods and labor -estimate $50k give or take... now you're in $110k for a picture car that you cant street race or track race. Personally, I would've picked up an R8 for that price, but that's just me.
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Does anyone know why this yellow is called Dakar? I'm just curious because I am from a city called Dakar.
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      05-08-2013, 10:35 AM   #257
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my god this is awesome!
once my e90 becomes a weekend track star, i will definitely need some of these mods!
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I love my E90 and to me it is. Don't get me wrong Im in love with the E92 just wanted something a little more rare I guess. I did initially expect to actually use the rear seats and take advantage of the 4 doors but I just never did.
wish there was a like button. I agree with you Felix all the way. Excited to see the car next week. My car is on its way from MD to bimmerfest for the MORR booth. See you there.
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      05-08-2013, 10:50 AM   #260
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Let's just applaud his efforts on creating such a unique M3.

I think it is pointless to bring up subjective matters in this thread especially pertaining to cost and practicality. The is the OP's expression of what he wants the car to be, period.
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Does anyone know why this yellow is called Dakar? I'm just curious because I am from a city called Dakar.
BMW Motorsport names its colors according to cities around the world that have famous race tracks or racing heritage.

Examples:

Imola Red - Imola, Italy
Estoril Blue - Estoril, Portugal
Silverstone - Silverstone, England
Dakar Yellow - Dakar, France
Daytona Purple - Daytona, FL, USA
Interlagos Blue - Interlagos, Sao Paulo, Brazil
Kyalami Orange - Kyalami, South Africa
Sepang Bronze - Sepang, Malaysia
Monaco Blue - Monaco, France
Laguna Seca Blue - Laguna Seca, California, USA
LeMans Blue - LeMans, France
Avus Blue - Avus, Berlin, Germany

There are a few which are not attached to any city such as:
Alpine White
Sapphire Metallic Black
Cosmos Black
Space Gray
Boston Green <- I dont know of any motorsport heritage in Boston
Artic Silver
Techno-Violet
Titanium Silver

I may be missing some.. feel free to contribute.

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BMW Motorsport names its colors according to cities around the world that have famous race tracks or racing heritage.

Examples:

Imola Red - Imola, Italy
Estoril Blue - Estoril, Portugal
Silverstone - Silverstone, England
Dakar Yellow - Dakar, France
Daytona Purple - Daytona, FL, USA
Interlagos Blue - Interlagos, Sao Paulo, Brazil
Sepang Bronze - Sepang, Malaysia
Monaco Blue - Monaco, France

There are a few which are not attached to any city such as:
Alpine White
Sapphire Metallic Black
Cosmos Black
Space Gray
Boston Green <- I dont know of any motorsport heritage in Boston
Artic Silver
Techno-Violet
Titanium Silver

I may be missing some.. feel free to contribute.
That is great info.
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wish there was a like button. I agree with you Felix all the way.
There is a like button - at the bottom of the first post.

There's one in every first post of a thread.
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That is great info.
I added 3 more blues... LSB Avus and LeMans
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