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      05-02-2013, 07:37 PM   #1
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Oil Plug Rant!

So I had my oil change done before I stored the car way for the winter. I won't say the name of the shop. Today I picked up oil and a filter and began the process. The drain plug bolt on the rear came out easy with no problem. The front bolt is where the issue is...

I will take pictures, but it looked like the shop that did my oil change stripped the bolt and tried using a larger torx to remove it. Instead of letting me know that it was stripped they put it right back in.

anyone have any suggestions on how to remove it?
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If you don't have a suitable torx socket like they used, an easy out or extractor is what you'll probably need. That or take it back to them and make them remove it and replace it.
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yup, buy a torx to drive in there to get it out and then buy a new one.

another way is to drill a small hole toward the edge of the drain plug. the hole only needs to be big enough and deep enough to get a pointed drift into the hole. then just hammer away at the drift at an angle tangential to the direction the plug will start unscrewing counter clockwise. Hope that makes sense. I have done it, but maybe easier to do than type in any way that makes sense.
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another way is to drill a small hole toward the edge of the drain plug. the hole only needs to be big enough and deep enough to get a pointed drift into the hole. then just hammer away at the drift at an angle tangential to the direction the plug will start unscrewing counter clockwise. Hope that makes sense. I have done it, but maybe easier to do than type in any way that makes sense.

OP- please don't do this.

go buy an $10 easy out
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And next time, take it to a shop that knows what they are doing.

You should out them so other members can stay clear.
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      05-02-2013, 09:09 PM   #6
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OP- please don't do this.

go buy an $10 easy out
an easy out is easier said than done in a lot of situations. he has no idea how tight the dorks tightened it. a seized bolt isn't going anywhere with an easy out. been there, done that.

the small hole method works fine. I used it on a mag-hytec diff cover drain bolt on a 11.5" AAM rear axle (like a DANA 80).

sounds like the OP is better off having someone else do it regardless as both of these methods are technique driven, and if he completely goobers it up, he'll be in worse shape.
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Glendale BMW also strip mine when they were doing the oil change. they are suppose to replace the bolt everytime they change the oil..

I was glad that i was able to remove it now everytime i do my oil change i replace that as well... it was a dollar a piece.

hope you get it out. try using a slightly bigger torx and slightly tap it but before you do use the correct torx size and tap it, thats what i did...

good luck bro.
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Crush washer is replaced, not entire plug.
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I am having a bmw tech come by and help me remove it. I will take some pictures shortly but it looks like the technic of putting a bigger torx has been done. So angry about this!
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picture of bolt.. so pissed
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What size Torx is it? When did BMW switch to Torx drain plug?
It used to be a 6mm drain plug on my 2008. Haven't changed out the 2011 yet.
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What size Torx is it? When did BMW switch to Torx drain plug?
It used to be a 6mm drain plug on my 2008. Haven't changed out the 2011 yet.
they never did... always has been 6mm people makes mistakes by looking at it... hey even the tech can since BMW uses torx...
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picture of bolt.. so pissed
OP. What did you do to fix this. I have the same issue. Got all my stuff together to do my first oil change. Bam - first plug I try is the front one, and before even touching it, I noticed it looks quite rounded. No surprise my wrench doesn't fit.
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I put a bigger torx and hit it with a hammer. This allowed me to remove the bolt
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I put a bigger torx and hit it with a hammer. This allowed me to remove the bolt
Thanks mkPOTO. I have a 2008, which I believe uses a 6 HEX, nota TORX. Would the same thinking apply, put in a bigger HEX or did you really mean a bigger TORX?

Oh and I assume you replaced it with a new plug? Are these generic or do I need to get them at BMW dealer?
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Thanks mkPOTO. I have a 2008, which I believe uses a 6 HEX, nota TORX. Would the same thinking apply, put in a bigger HEX or did you really mean a bigger TORX?

Oh and I assume you replaced it with a new plug? Are these generic or do I need to get them at BMW dealer?
hex will do the same thing, I forget it was that. I replaced it and went to BMW and purchased several other ones to have just in case.
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hex will do the same thing, I forget it was that. I replaced it and went to BMW and purchased several other ones to have just in case.
Yeah, not a bad idea. How much are they? $25 each? :P
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Are the BMW OEM plugs magnetic in the E9x? Might as well get some magnetic ones while you're at it if not.
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Are the BMW OEM plugs magnetic in the E9x? Might as well get some magnetic ones while you're at it if not.
I ordered a couple of these last night.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/310381222269...witem=&vxp=mtr
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Anybody have any torque wrench recommendations? I have one, but it's enormous and i think the scale is way too high for a simple job like this.
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Anybody have any torque wrench recommendations? I have one, but it's enormous and i think the scale is way too high for a simple job like this.
I believe it is 25 Nm please be sure its in NM, had a guy working at a shop one time thinking it was pounds and stripped a oil pan bolt before lol
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are we all in agreement that something like a fumoto valve is a bit risky given the position of the drain locations on this car?
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