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      12-22-2016, 10:22 AM   #1
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Conservatives plan to 'Kill' Open internet

Because FUCK YOU, that's why.

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FCC chairman Tom Wheeler, a Democrat, has announced that he’ll leave office on January 20th, as the Trump regime takes over. That leaves, three people in charge until a replacement for Wheeler is confirmed. Two of those people, Ajit Pai and Michael O’Rielly, sent a letter this week to the five largest telecom lobbying groups promising end net neutrality with their newfound power. The letter reads in part:

As you know, we dissented from the Commission’s February 2015 Net Neutrality decision, including the Order’s imposition of unnecessary and unjustified burdens on providers … we will seek to revisit those particular requirements, and the Title II Net Neutrality proceeding more broadly, as soon as possible.

Title II is the provision that makes it illegal for a company to charge extra cash for websites of their choosing. Basically, your internet could look a lot more like your cable, with a limited number of sites and premium content costing more. You’d still have to pay HBO Go and the internet company for the same thing you have now.
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If you're worried that the US government will stomp on net neutrality the moment Trump becomes President, your concerns are well-founded. The FCC's two Republican Commissioners, Ajit Pai and Michael O'Rielly, have sent a letter to carrier lobbying groups promising to "revisit" net neutrality rules "as soon as possible" -- that is, once Chairman Tom Wheeler leaves and the right wing gets majority control of the agency. They write that the requirements for traffic fairness and transparency create "unjustified burdens" for providers, and previously said that they intended to "undo" net neutrality and other policies opposed by their party.
https://www.engadget.com/2016/12/21/...et-neutrality/
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I don't understand the need for the Republican party to pass/enforce legislation that's sole purpose is to fuck over the citizens as a whole.

And people vote for them.
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Well, I suppose it benefits the working class, since they'll actually be the ones with enough money to keep watching porn?


EDIT: "Free" porn

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Well, I suppose it benefits the working class, since they'll actually be the ones with enough money to keep watching porn?


EDIT: "Free" porn
NOt anymore.
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Over 3MB/s connection
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How many GBs would I need to download all of the inter webs.

Just want to make sure I have a copy before they turn it off.
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Remember to share all the good stuff before it's too late! Friends before politics man!

My favorite radio journalist, Jone Nikula, a man who has a very good view on both military and politics, and who clearly enjoys reading, had a story to tell today.

Our police overlords want to ban this nice little club, a counterstrike movement against everything not purely Finnish (hello 1930's...). They are going to ask a court to ban the whole movement, so they will not be able to rent a space as a club and they can't declare a protest time protected by the cops anymore.

Fine, they are idiots. The shit they spew is something, well arguing with them is fun but almost as productive as shitting in your pants to avoid flushing the toilet.

So okay, if it was up to me those few fuckers would be sent to Syria to do humanitarian work. But our idiots want to treat them as a criminal club, which by the language they use they are for sure. The clubs main source of income is sociology students trying to figure out what went wrong with our way of life to get them to this point.

His words were basically he'll rent them a club house just so he'll know where the idiots are. "Wed at least know their location and their membership register would provide us information on the state of idiotism in the country."

So this is my way to comfort you guys: You ain't perfect but you're not the only ones fucking it all up. I'll teach you how to route your ip and how to mask your identity before bimmerpost gets a new government assigned moderator. And btw, I have friends who could hook you up with sweet connections.

Not an advertisement. At least not towards tourism in finland. For free internet yes.
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Over 3MB/s connection
That's not so bad if you really mean 3MB/s versus 3Mb/s. 3MB/s is actually 24Mb/s.

Sorry....networking tech geek here.
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That's not so bad if you really mean 3MB/s versus 3Mb/s. 3MB/s is actually 24Mb/s.

Sorry....networking tech geek here.
The latter. But soon after the turn of the year we are going to 300Mb/s
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"Net neutrality" is a very, very, very loaded term.

In the US virtually the entire infrastructure that allows the internet to exist was built with private funding. The recent FCC rulings essentially want to make that investment moot by turning the whole deal into a public commons. That's a stupendously bad idea, downright communistic in fact.

On a more personal level, it also bars access providers from throttling of any type. So when your neighbor's emo geek son sets up a streaming video server next door and instantly consumes all of the bandwidth in your neighborhood pipeline, well, tough noogies. Because "net neutrality."

There's some good stuff in the recent ruling. But it is too broad, overreaches, and needlessly penalizes the entities that saw the value in building the damned thing in the first place.
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"Net neutrality" is a very, very, very loaded term.

In the US virtually the entire infrastructure that allows the internet to exist was built with private funding. The recent FCC rulings essentially want to make that investment moot by turning the whole deal into a public commons. That's a stupendously bad idea, downright communistic in fact.

On a more personal level, it also bars access providers from throttling of any type. So when your neighbor's emo geek son sets up a streaming video server next door and instantly consumes all of the bandwidth in your neighborhood pipeline, well, tough noogies. Because "net neutrality."

There's some good stuff in the recent ruling. But it is too broad, overreaches, and needlessly penalizes the entities that saw the value in building the damned thing in the first place.
Most internet providers charge by connection speed and have data caps on how much they can consume already. So if the guy next door starts using a ton of data, he'll hit his bandwidth and data cap very fast. Also, like it or not, all internet service providers throttle down connection speeds during high load times.

The quality of service argument against net neutrality is moot.
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Most internet providers charge by connection speed and have data caps on how much they can consume already. So if the guy next door starts using a ton of data, he'll hit his bandwidth and data cap very fast. Also, like it or not, all internet service providers throttle down connection speeds during high load times.

The quality of service argument against net neutrality is moot.
That would be a breach of true net neutrality FYI.

Lets all stop with the sky is falling here. No one is going to censor the internet.

All this does is take money from the internet providers pockets, and eventually puts it into the governments.
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That would be a breach of true net neutrality FYI.

Lets all stop with the sky is falling here. No one is going to censor the internet.

All this does is take money from the internet providers pockets, and eventually puts it into the governments.
Charging for bandwidth and usage is not a breach of net neutrality. You're welcome to do whatever you want with your internet traffic, but you have to pay for it.

As I said, most internet providers already do it and no one is stopping them. Your cell phone data is not unlimited either - you pay for what you use.
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That's not so bad if you really mean 3MB/s versus 3Mb/s. 3MB/s is actually 24Mb/s.

Sorry....networking tech geek here.
Mind blown.
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If I own the pipe why should others be able to use it for free or with same QOS?
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No.

And also no.


Oh, and no.

Net Neutrality is essentially
1. Making internet a utility like phone
2. It man mandates ALL data be treated equally
3. The infrastructure for a lot of broadband networks has been paid for by tax payers
4. Someone using more bandwidth than his neighbors isn't going to slow down the whole network.

Basically, you're ignorant if you think this is positive in any way.
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No.

And also no.


Oh, and no.

Net Neutrality is essentially
1. Making internet a utility like phone
2. It man mandates ALL data be treated equally
3. The infrastructure for a lot of broadband networks has been paid for by tax payers
4. Someone using more bandwidth than his neighbors isn't going to slow down the whole network.

Basically, you're ignorant if you think this is positive in any way.
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Dude, china has done well with limiting access! I'm sure this is just a small step towards freedom!

And a giant step somewhere very dark.
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Let me get this straight - Net Neutrality is going to fix a successful Internet that isn't broken?

If you subscribe to a cable tv service today, you don't get to pick the channels you want; your only choice is to sign up for 100+ channels. If you could pick your channels, bullshit ones like E! and Lifetime and MSNBC would never be able to survive - their viewership is so limited that advertisers wouldn't pay them. But you don't have that choice - the government has created a monopoly utility and forced you to buy it their way.

Net Neutrality looks to be very similar. No thanks.
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Lol I dont know about the internet but if I had a TV channel choice, it would be-

ABC
CBS
NBC
FOX NEWS
TNT
USA
A&E
TBS
Comedy
Travel
History
Military
National Geographic
Discovery


There you go... a 15 channel package... can I get that for $9.99 and we call it a day.?>
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