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      12-13-2012, 04:03 PM   #1
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Stud Conversion ? Pros / Cons?

I've but found no pro/ cons list....


Are there any other benefits of Stud conversion besides convenience for swapping wheels and partially fitting spacers without getting extended lugs?

I understand that the studs are a ware item... but wouldn't hanging and sliding your wheels on these studs risk in stripping the studs itself even sooner?

Is this a must or just a novelty item? I personally don't have problem with my stock/ extended lugs...
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      12-13-2012, 04:04 PM   #2
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what about just using a wheel stud guide..?
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      12-13-2012, 04:11 PM   #3
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When I had them, I loved them. Never had any issues with the threads on the studs wearing. I'm back to lugs now that I'm not tracking my E90. I did buy the extended lugs from Turner so I can continue to use my spacers.

One weird thing I've found is some tire shops are reticent to work on cars with studs, stating liability concerns. Anytime I had new tires mounted, I had to put the car up on jack stands in the garage and drive the truck over with the wheels & new tires to get them swapped. PITA.
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      12-13-2012, 04:22 PM   #4
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They also move the lug out away from the wheel and saves from scratches without need for longer sockets. Overall it makes life a lot easier and painless for frequent wheel changes
Here's a pic of mine. You can see what I mean.
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Pros:
  • Look good / aggressive
  • Allow flexibility in spacer size without having to buy extended lugs
  • Last longer than lugs when you make frequent wheel changes

Cons:
  • Harder to install wheels - I know everyone says that they make it easier! I find them harder to use because you have to line up the lug holes with the studs. Lining up the wheel holes with the studs while holding a heavy wheel in the air isn't "easy" IMO. On a car without studs, You can place the wheel on the hub and turn the wheel to line up the lug holes while it's balancing on the hub.
  • More difficult to replace than standard lugs (studs are put on with lock-tight and difficult to remove).
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Thanks for al the replies... so as far as I can tell, at the end of the day... it all boils down to personal preference.. right?

j2m beautiful wheel you got there !
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Pros:
  • Look good / aggressive
  • Allow flexibility in spacer size without having to buy extended lugs
  • Last longer than lugs when you make frequent wheel changes

Cons:
  • Harder to install wheels - I know everyone says that they make it easier! I find them harder to use because you have to line up the lug holes with the studs. Lining up the wheel holes with the studs while holding a heavy wheel in the air isn't "easy" IMO. On a car without studs, You can place the wheel on the hub and turn the wheel to line up the lug holes while it's balancing on the hub.
  • More difficult to replace than standard lugs (studs are put on with lock-tight and difficult to remove).
Pretty much this, except that I find it easier to swap wheels rather than harder. I'll also add that they need to be replaced every so often (up for debate how often) and OEM lugs don't really. I like mine a lot. I did like 8 wheel swaps last track event so I could rotate the slicks and keep them from cording the front left, and it doesn't take long at all with studs and an impact. Great mod for $200.
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......I'll also add that they need to be replaced every so often (up for debate how often) and OEM lugs don't really.....
I have been told that OEM lugs stretch and need to be replaced MORE often than studs which is one of the reasons to use studs.
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On the front wheels you have to hold the wheel up to line up the holes.

The rears are easy with Lugs, place wheel on hub, turn wheel to line up slots.
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One weird thing I've found is some tire shops are reticent to work on cars with studs, stating liability concerns.
So they refuse to work on all Japanese and American cars that have studs from the factory? what a dumb shop LMAO
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