BMW M3 Forum (E90 E92)

BMW Garage BMW Meets Register Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read


Go Back   M3Post - BMW M3 Forum > E90/E92 M3 Technical Topics > Engine, Transmission, Exhaust, Drivetrain, ECU Software Modifications
 
Lux Angel Eyes
Post Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
      10-04-2013, 03:59 PM   #1
Alex07M3
Banned
59
Rep
2,690
Posts

Drives: E92 M3, Evo X MR, A4 Allroad
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: Gatineau

iTrader: (1)

2months old MPE has cracked open on both sides

So short story, I bought my MPE in June from Tisher, had an excellent price and service, and thought I also had an excellent exhaust!!

Started to ear a vibration between 2000 and 3000rpm in first gear a week ago, I thought it was a loose bolt or something so i went to the muffler shop who installed it on my car and to our big surprise the muffler was craked on both sides at the same place and in the same maner. I guess it is safe to say that it's a weakness on these mufflers!

I knew that inconel was really tin on the MPE but never I would've thought that it could cause something like this! This exhaust is by far the most expensive I ever bought and it seems like it's not better then any other! Anyway I just sent those pictures to Tisher and I'll see what will happen from there, I'm confident they'll continue to offer me a great service like before!

Is there anyone else who had this issue with the same exhaust, let me know what you think about it!? Here are some pictures of both cracks on both sides, you can see that it cracked in a T shape at the same place on both side!!

Name:  MPE 1.bmp
Views: 7032
Size:  3.59 MB
Name:  MPE 2.bmp
Views: 7001
Size:  3.59 MB
Appreciate 0
      10-04-2013, 04:15 PM   #2
whats77inaname
Native Texan
United_States
500
Rep
3,322
Posts

Drives: when at all possible
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: Tx

iTrader: (23)

Damn.
Appreciate 0
      10-04-2013, 04:30 PM   #3
Denk
Colonel
Denk's Avatar
United_States
384
Rep
2,867
Posts

Drives: e92 M3
Join Date: May 2011
Location: PNW

iTrader: (2)

I've had mine for over 2 yrs w/o any issues. Yeah, due to the strength of Inconel they can go thinner and shave some weight. I haven't heard of any MPE's popping/cracking like this. Did it take a hit possibly? I'm sure Tischer will take care of you. I got mine from them also.
Appreciate 0
      10-04-2013, 05:00 PM   #4
Alex07M3
Banned
59
Rep
2,690
Posts

Drives: E92 M3, Evo X MR, A4 Allroad
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: Gatineau

iTrader: (1)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Denk View Post
I've had mine for over 2 yrs w/o any issues. Yeah, due to the strength of Inconel they can go thinner and shave some weight. I haven't heard of any MPE's popping/cracking like this. Did it take a hit possibly? I'm sure Tischer will take care of you. I got mine from them also.
No, no hit at all, the exhaust still looks brand new, no scratchs nothing!! I already got some news from Tisher and it seems like I will have to go to the closest US BMW dealership to have them take a look at it to have it replace under warranty! I'll see if it would not be easier to just weld it since I live in Canada and the closest dealership is 400km away!
Appreciate 0
      10-04-2013, 05:15 PM   #5
dozaiya
Captain
Taiwan
44
Rep
707
Posts

Drives: 2011 MW E92 M3
Join Date: Nov 2012
Location: Shanghai

iTrader: (1)

yeesh!
Appreciate 0
      10-04-2013, 05:19 PM   #6
Gearhead999s
Major General
Gearhead999s's Avatar
438
Rep
7,784
Posts

Drives: F25 2.8dF82 M4 R1200GS
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Toronto

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Alex07M3 View Post
No, no hit at all, the exhaust still looks brand new, no scratchs nothing!! I already got some news from Tisher and it seems like I will have to go to the closest US BMW dealership to have them take a look at it to have it replace under warranty! I'll see if it would not be easier to just weld it since I live in Canada and the closest dealership is 400km away!
You live in Gatineau and think the closest dealership is 400 kms away There are 2 dealerships in Ottawa which is less than 20 minutes away!
Appreciate 0
      10-04-2013, 05:23 PM   #7
Alex07M3
Banned
59
Rep
2,690
Posts

Drives: E92 M3, Evo X MR, A4 Allroad
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: Gatineau

iTrader: (1)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Gearhead999s View Post
You live in Gatineau and think the closest dealership is 400 kms away There are 2 dealerships in Ottawa which is less than 20 minutes away!
No, the closest US dealership, since I bought my exhaust from Tisher in the US, I need to deal with BMWUSA for warranty coverage!
Appreciate 0
      10-04-2013, 05:25 PM   #8
Gearhead999s
Major General
Gearhead999s's Avatar
438
Rep
7,784
Posts

Drives: F25 2.8dF82 M4 R1200GS
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Toronto

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Alex07M3 View Post
No, the closest US dealership, since I bought my exhaust from Tisher in the US, I need to deal with BMWUSA for warranty coverage!
I would still check with a local dealer if it can be warrantied before having to deal with a US dealer & shipping.
Appreciate 0
      10-04-2013, 05:27 PM   #9
edwinm3
Brigadier General
edwinm3's Avatar
United_States
398
Rep
3,504
Posts

Drives: F82
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: Broward

iTrader: (24)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Alex07M3
Quote:
Originally Posted by Gearhead999s View Post
You live in Gatineau and think the closest dealership is 400 kms away There are 2 dealerships in Ottawa which is less than 20 minutes away!
No, the closest US dealership, since I bought my exhaust from Tisher in the US, I need to deal with BMWUSA for warranty coverage!
Damn that sucks! My suggestion OP talk to BMWNA and see if they can handle it through your nearest dealer. At least try
__________________

Grigio Telesto M4, 6MT.
E90 LCI 335i
Appreciate 0
      10-04-2013, 10:27 PM   #10
M3 Pilot
Lieutenant
M3 Pilot's Avatar
Singapore
32
Rep
459
Posts

Drives: 17' F80 M3 ZCP
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Singapore

iTrader: (0)

2nd Photo looks like there is a scrap. But still doesn't explain why it would crack open.

Does BMW provide any warranty on M Performance Parts ?
Appreciate 0
      10-04-2013, 10:37 PM   #11
Alex07M3
Banned
59
Rep
2,690
Posts

Drives: E92 M3, Evo X MR, A4 Allroad
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: Gatineau

iTrader: (1)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Gearhead999s
Quote:
Originally Posted by Alex07M3 View Post
No, the closest US dealership, since I bought my exhaust from Tisher in the US, I need to deal with BMWUSA for warranty coverage!
I would still check with a local dealer if it can be warrantied before having to deal with a US dealer & shipping.
Good idea, I will do that, I'm ready for an oil change anyway!
Appreciate 0
      10-04-2013, 10:38 PM   #12
Alex07M3
Banned
59
Rep
2,690
Posts

Drives: E92 M3, Evo X MR, A4 Allroad
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: Gatineau

iTrader: (1)

Quote:
Originally Posted by edwinm3
Quote:
Originally Posted by Alex07M3
Quote:
Originally Posted by Gearhead999s View Post
You live in Gatineau and think the closest dealership is 400 kms away There are 2 dealerships in Ottawa which is less than 20 minutes away!
No, the closest US dealership, since I bought my exhaust from Tisher in the US, I need to deal with BMWUSA for warranty coverage!
Damn that sucks! My suggestion OP talk to BMWNA and see if they can handle it through your nearest dealer. At least try
I'll try that also!
Appreciate 0
      10-04-2013, 10:47 PM   #13
Alex07M3
Banned
59
Rep
2,690
Posts

Drives: E92 M3, Evo X MR, A4 Allroad
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: Gatineau

iTrader: (1)

Quote:
Originally Posted by M3 Pilot
2nd Photo looks like there is a scrap. But still doesn't explain why it would crack open.

Does BMW provide any warranty on M Performance Parts ?
No, there's no scratch or any damage under the exhaust, it's only dirt and smoke that came out from the cracks!

Yes there is a 2 years warranty on the exhaust, hopefully it wont be a hassle to make them respect it!! I'm a bit afraid since it seems like it's not a common issue like I first thought!
Appreciate 0
      10-04-2013, 11:13 PM   #14
1MOREMOD
2016 Track Days - 3| Ridge 1:52:24|Pacific 1:33:30
1MOREMOD's Avatar
United_States
4539
Rep
18,029
Posts

Drives: Race car->
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: check your mirrors

iTrader: (5)

you entitled canadians, probably ran over a homeless guy on the way to get some poutine.
__________________

02 Tiag e46 M3|6MT|GC plates|MCS c.o.|GC bars|GC race control arms|GC bushings|BW eng. & tran. mounts|subframe kit|BW race shifter|BW Jaffster|Euro header|BW exhaust|K&N c.a.i.|Epic race tune|Rouge pulleys|Seibon CF hood|CSL bumper|apr gt 250 & splitter|ST-40|XR-2|SS lines|half cage|Recaro profi|Profi 2 harness|BMWpedals|BW studs|
Appreciate 0
      10-04-2013, 11:38 PM   #15
MilehighM3
Colonel
MilehighM3's Avatar
161
Rep
2,825
Posts

Drives: E90 M3
Join Date: May 2011
Location: Colorado Springs

iTrader: (13)

:
Appreciate 0
      10-05-2013, 12:02 AM   #16
FogCityM3
Colonel
FogCityM3's Avatar
323
Rep
2,379
Posts

Drives: M3 (E90) & Shelby GT350R
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: San Francisco

iTrader: (0)

Wow, quite surprising given how strong Inconel purportedly is. My sense is BMW would cover this right away if there was a mfg quality flaw, as they advertise one the benefits of the MPE being a 2 year warranty.
Appreciate 0
      10-05-2013, 12:11 AM   #17
rjd598
Major General
rjd598's Avatar
United_States
355
Rep
5,966
Posts

Drives: E90 M3/ F30 328i
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: San Diego,CA

iTrader: (2)

Garage List
2016 BMW 328i  [0.00]
2010 BMW M3  [4.50]
Quote:
Originally Posted by FogCityM3 View Post
Wow, quite surprising given how strong Inconel purportedly is. My sense is BMW would cover this right away if there was a mfg quality flaw, as they advertise one the benefits of the MPE being a 2 year warranty.
+1 hope you get this taken care of op. Keep us posted!
__________________
Appreciate 0
      10-05-2013, 12:32 AM   #18
Alex07M3
Banned
59
Rep
2,690
Posts

Drives: E92 M3, Evo X MR, A4 Allroad
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: Gatineau

iTrader: (1)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Lute
Quote:
Originally Posted by whats77inaname View Post
Damn.
+1

For what they charge for this, I would expect it to outlast the car and your house

Unless of course the OP rashed it.
Don't worry, I did'nt rashed it to use your expression! I'll take better pictures to show everyone but what you see on these two pictures are cracks that are about the same lenght and are exactly in the same spot but at the two opposite sides of the muffler, and like I said before, there's is absolutly no other damage on this exhaust except for those cracks, it clearly would've been impossible for me to hit something that would've cause those and nothing else!

But I understand the sceptisism, that's why I'll make sure to take better pictures to show you all what I'm talking about!
Appreciate 0
      10-05-2013, 01:43 AM   #19
whats77inaname
Native Texan
United_States
500
Rep
3,322
Posts

Drives: when at all possible
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: Tx

iTrader: (23)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Alex07M3 View Post
But I understand the sceptisism, that's why I'll make sure to take better pictures to show you all what I'm talking about!
No skepticism on my part, OP. Just disappointed for you, especially @ that price.
Appreciate 0
      10-05-2013, 11:21 PM   #20
V8FunNaturally
Banned
33
Rep
1,017
Posts

Drives: Regensburg Factory E92M3
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: NA

iTrader: (0)

I am sure they'll (better) put a new one or fix it to your satisfaction. This is an outrageously expensive part with a warranty not some furnace steel pipe from a flea market.
Appreciate 0
      10-06-2013, 12:44 AM   #21
edu09
Lieutenant Colonel
edu09's Avatar
United_States
206
Rep
1,665
Posts

Drives: 2108 frozen black F82 M4
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: Doral, FL

iTrader: (6)

Garage List
Quote:
Originally Posted by Alex07M3 View Post
No, there's no scratch or any damage under the exhaust, it's only dirt and smoke that came out from the cracks!

Yes there is a 2 years warranty on the exhaust, hopefully it wont be a hassle to make them respect it!! I'm a bit afraid since it seems like it's not a common issue like I first thought!
Dont worry, they will replace it with a new exhaust, when I had the MPE exhaust I got it replaced under warranty due to a peeling problem inside the tips (black paint inside the tips was peeling off) your case is much easier to claim a warranty than a simple paint peeling issue like mine was, although I bought my exhaust at a BMW dealer in Cali I took it to a local BMW dealer and they honored the warranty
Appreciate 0
      10-06-2013, 08:46 AM   #22
KmndntKlink
Lieutenant
KmndntKlink's Avatar
Canada
8
Rep
443
Posts

Drives: 2010 e92 m3
Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: Toronto

iTrader: (4)

Your local BMW dealer will be able to warranty it. It's BMWNorthAmerica after all, not BMWUSA or BMWCAN. That sucks pretty hard bro, the MPE is so $$$$ I'd expect it to be perfect all the time forever.
__________________
E92 ///M3 in Dakar Yellow, M-DCT, iDrive, 220M OEM rims, Active Autowerke Green filter, Turner Motorsport test pipes, BPM stage 2 tune, Stoptech ST-40 F+R in yellow.
Appreciate 0
Post Reply

Bookmarks

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 09:18 PM.




m3post
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.7.0
Copyright ©2000 - 2017, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
1Addicts.com, BIMMERPOST.com, E90Post.com, F30Post.com, M3Post.com, ZPost.com, 5Post.com, 6Post.com, 7Post.com, XBimmers.com logo and trademark are properties of BIMMERPOST