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      03-27-2013, 05:42 PM   #1
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vs the NEW 2014 Camaro Z28

Looks like Chevrolet brought out a surprise during the NY Auto Show...the Z28 Camaro!! It looks pretty nice and has some awesome standard equipment. Just wanted to get everyone's thoughts on this.

Here is a link to the Car and Driver article:

http://www.caranddriver.com/news/201...-unveiled-news
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      03-27-2013, 06:31 PM   #2
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      03-27-2013, 06:45 PM   #3
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i deff like the front end vs the older model, the back end idk tho, seems they changed that on purpose so the c7 corvette looks more unique......not bad for the price tho, interior is still so blahhhh tho....you cant even get a nav screen i think.
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This is a track focused car. Whatever they deemed as unnecessary for the track, they left off or got rid of it. This Z/28 will be not joke. It will destroy on the track. And, it looks great too
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Looks pretty damn good. A nice and welcome facelift. I'm hoping those tail lights have an interesting design inside because they just look like boring rectangles from the small pictures I just saw.
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      03-27-2013, 07:34 PM   #6
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i still don't like its looks, but I'd sure like to take it for a spin on the track
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Wow!! 1le, zl1 and now a 427 z28 stripper model!!! I love it. I was never a fan of the zl1 but this z28 na option is amazing!
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This seems like the Chevy version of the Boss 302. Less power than the top dog zl1 (gt500) but more track focused
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no a/c ? Really, who would buy it.....
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no a/c ? Really, who would buy it.....
Are you serious? and A/C is an option
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      03-28-2013, 09:53 PM   #11
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i deff like the front end vs the older model, the back end idk tho, seems they changed that on purpose so the c7 corvette looks more unique......not bad for the price tho, interior is still so blahhhh tho....you cant even get a nav screen i think.
Oh is that the unreleased price your mentioning? Didn't know you worked for GM.

Will be an awesome vehicle, however, 15k brakes on a camaro will be difficult to swallow if needing replacement.
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      03-29-2013, 08:11 AM   #12
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I think it's pretty cool but only 500hp from a 7 liter engine? 7 liters ?!?! That's disappointing. Also it's still monstrously huge and poor visibility.
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I for one am happy to see GM produce a track dedicated car right from the factory and it got me thinking about next year's Grand Am/ALMS merger. Maybe the US makers are gearing up for a major push of sports car racing to raise its profile to the same level as NASCAR/Indy in the states and GM is trying to get in the forefront. I am jumping to conclusions, but if sports car racing rose anywhere close to that level, it would be something.
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      03-29-2013, 09:33 AM   #14
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Shit.......that's awesome.
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      03-29-2013, 10:03 AM   #15
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I think it's pretty cool but only 500hp from a 7 liter engine? 7 liters ?!?! That's disappointing. Also it's still monstrously huge and poor visibility.
Making a lot of power per liter is usually a good thing in my opinion, but you need to look at this another way.

This Chevy "small block" weighs 458 pounds, compared to 445 for the S65. It's also slightly more compact overall compared to the bimmer.

Pretty close overall, wouldn't you say? Except for overall power and torque, of course.

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      03-29-2013, 10:35 AM   #16
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Making a lot of power per liter is usually a good thing in my opinion, but you need to look at this another way.

This Chevy "small block" weighs 458 pounds, compared to 445 for the S65. It's also slightly more compact overall compared to the bimmer.

Pretty close overall, wouldn't you say? Except for overall power and torque, of course.

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That and the fact that there is a lot more left in the LS7 for power........ How about 700HP (100HP per litre) on pump gas for under $20K!?!? For a cam in block 2 valve per cylinder engine, the GM LS engines are amazing and they make more power than the sum of the parts would suggest.

http://www.mastmotorsports.com/2010/...Engines&id=155






Put a cam and some software in that Z28 and 75-100HP will be gained quite easily for little money


I am looking to build a Resto-mod 67-69 Camaro with an LS7 or LSX and a 6 speed once I get my garage done, should be fun!
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This is one of those strings that keep me in this forum.

Chevy announces a serious-as-a-heart-attack race car, and this string is filled with posts about the looks, and 15K for replacement brakes is a lot for a Camaro, and the power per liter isn't very high, and who would buy it if A/C isn't standard, and...

OK, there were some posts by more informed people (and you know who you are), but really, this forum is often a laugh a minute...

Listen, did you guys miss the part about no sound deadening? That piece alone means this car just won't be street driven, smog-legal or not.

In any event, this car will very likely be knocking on the below-7:30 door at the 'Ring, but nobody in their right mind would use it as a daily driver.

Think ACR Viper, or somesuch. Not to be compared with the M3 in any way.

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Disagree, not all of us grew up in a time when not having butt warmers was considered roughing it. I would happily roll with this as a toy car. It's what I'm hoping for with the Z06.
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Disagree, not all of us grew up in a time when not having butt warmers was considered roughing it. I would happily roll with this as a toy car. It's what I'm hoping for with the Z06.
Agreed! Although butt warmers are nice on the long drive back from the track

I'm thinking, why didn't they go to this extreme with any model of the vette?
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Agreed! Although butt warmers are nice on the long drive back from the track

I'm thinking, why didn't they go to this extreme with any model of the vette?
Well, you could argue that the Z06 did. Its the lightest of the vettes, and is the true track car of the bunch. Also, this is the new GM, not when the C6 was developed. I can bet you anything the new Z06 will be more extreme in this regard. Cant wait!
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Looks like Chevrolet brought out a surprise during the NY Auto Show...the Z28 Camaro!! It looks pretty nice and has some awesome standard equipment. Just wanted to get everyone's thoughts on this.

Here is a link to the Car and Driver article:

http://www.caranddriver.com/news/201...-unveiled-news
The Camero looks ok on the outside.... have you sat in one? It is just the most awful car on the inside. The dash, quality of the materials, the seemingly metal covered interior doors, the stupid looking dash, the ridiculous center console, buttons, materials..... it just looks like absolute crap.

The high end ZL1 and others are truly great performers, and handle well. I will give them that... but this is not something I could sit in day in and day out and enjoy - full stop. the bunkered feeling is not for me either, I am short, and it just doesn't work. I want to see where I am going, and see all around me.

I'll stick to my BMW and wait for the M4.
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The Camero looks ok on the outside.... have you sat in one? It is just the most awful car on the inside. The dash, quality of the materials, the seemingly metal covered interior doors, the stupid looking dash, the ridiculous center console, buttons, materials..... it just looks like absolute crap.

The high end ZL1 and others are truly great performers, and handle well. I will give them that... but this is not something I could sit in day in and day out and enjoy - full stop. the bunkered feeling is not for me either, I am short, and it just doesn't work. I want to see where I am going, and see all around me.

I'll stick to my BMW and wait for the M4.
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