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      03-18-2013, 11:03 PM   #1
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Another KW Sleeve Install

Install was smooth with minor complications. I had new michelin super sports installed last week and noticed a small ring layer of something around the outer edge and assumed it was some new tire coating coming off. Turns out i was rubbing a little in the rear *before* lowering the car (had 15/12 spacer set up F/R). Weird this rubbed given stock rims and tire sizes and so many running this spacer setup. Lowered the car and obviously i started hearing the rubbing more, mainly on major highway dips and bumps.

Upon inspection, its very minor, no real damage to the tire or car, but on bigger dips/bumps it was rubbing a little and slowly grinding away the plastic hump in the rear wheel well where the rear bumper meets the rear quarter panel. You can run your hand around the inside of your rear wheel arch to see what i'm talking about.

Anyway, it kinda ran its course (tire rubbed itself enough clearance... sounded dirty) on the right, and then i gave it a little help on the left by jacking it up and filing down that plastic hump a little more the driver side. No fender rolling or real modification. I'm too stoked about the results so i plan on leaving it as is (same drop and spacers). Did about 3/4 inch in rear, inch in the front and the look is night and day to me. No rubbing issues in the front.

Got it done at Spec Motorsports in McKinney (North Dallas). Great guys and highly recommend.



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      03-19-2013, 12:56 AM   #2
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with the 15/12 spacer the stance looks great! i need spacers now!
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Looks identical to my car minus the wheels and drop. Stance overall looks great. I want to do this so bad now.
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That is weird, although I've been hearing this from a few people lately. Looks great though!
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Nice! Mine with KW/SO's and 10 mm spacer in rear was rubbing liner and inner bumper lip. I switched to a 5 mm spacer, but prefer the look of the 10 mm. 2nd pic was taken under full compression (angled on driveway) to show rubbing.
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Nice! Mine with KW/SO's and 10 mm spacer in rear was rubbing liner and inner bumper lip. I switched to a 5 mm spacer, but prefer the look of the 10 mm. 2nd pic was taken under full compression (angled on driveway) to show rubbing.
That looks worse than mine. I'm only contacting plastic inside the well, and I think it has stopped now that I created some clearance (some with the tire, some with rasp :-)) But I'm not making contact with any painted surface.

I had wife, two kids, and suitcase in the trunk and it rubbed just once or twice on a 30min highway jaunt. I'm gonna roll with it but keep an eye on it.
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Nice! Mine with KW/SO's and 10 mm spacer in rear was rubbing liner and inner bumper lip. I switched to a 5 mm spacer, but prefer the look of the 10 mm. 2nd pic was taken under full compression (angled on driveway) to show rubbing.

Was this with stock sized tires? what brand? maybe alignment was off...
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Was this with stock sized tires? what brand? maybe alignment was off...
Michelin Super Sports in stock 265/35-19. Could be alignment except the alignment actually feels better than it did before lowering (smoother, less vibration etc). The plastic hump protrudes so far out that I don't know how anyone avoids it with even mildly aggressive fitment. Remember I was rubbing *before* I lowered it. The plastic rubbed off on the tire and left this grey ring of plastic that I could easily peel off with my fingers. I obviously got more of that after lowering, but it just wore down to a level that won't seem to rub any more (and didn't seem to do any material damage to the car).
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whats the drop?
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whats the drop?
About 3/4 rear, 1 inch in front. Kit can go lower. This was the first shot.
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      03-19-2013, 12:45 PM   #11
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I am rubbing in back too. Stock sized Pilot Super Sport 265 tires on 219M 18" stock wheels and it rubs on the plastic fender liner with 10mm spacers.
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Was this with stock sized tires? what brand? maybe alignment was off...
Yes, Michelin PSS 265's on 220M's with 10 mm spacer. I had alignment re-done after installing KW's. It was -2.0 camber with stock toe in rear.
I have since reduced camber front and rear (-2.4f/-1.8f) to get more even wear on PSS's and NT01's. I have not yet tried 10 mm rear spacers with new alignment.
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I'm actually in the process of getting a quote for the sleeve install as we speak. Will I also need spacers?
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Nice! Mine with KW/SO's and 10 mm spacer in rear was rubbing liner and inner bumper lip. I switched to a 5 mm spacer, but prefer the look of the 10 mm. 2nd pic was taken under full compression (angled on driveway) to show rubbing.
Just cut that piece out and trim the little metal/plastic flange behind it. Enjoy your 10mm spacers
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Just cut that piece out and trim the little metal/plastic flange behind it. Enjoy your 10mm spacers
That's what I'm thinking. The piece that's rubbing doesn't even seem necessary. I filed it down and seemed to do the trick on 12mm spacers.
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Just cut that piece out and trim the little metal/plastic flange behind it. Enjoy your 10mm spacers
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That's what I'm thinking. The piece that's rubbing doesn't even seem necessary. I filed it down and seemed to do the trick on 12mm spacers.
Good advise! I will try 10 mm spacers again with new alignment and trim as needed. The problem seems to be worst on the left side. There appears to be less clearance btw tire and fender on left side. The left and right camber and toe adjustments look similar and car has never been in a wreck.
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Good advise! I will try 10 mm spacers again with new alignment and trim as needed. The problem seems to be worst on the left side. There appears to be less clearance btw tire and fender on left side. The left and right camber and toe adjustments look similar and car has never been in a wreck.
That was my problem as well. I had to do more work on the left side to get it right.

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That's what I'm thinking. The piece that's rubbing doesn't even seem necessary. I filed it down and seemed to do the trick on 12mm spacers.
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That was my problem as well. I had to do more work on the left side to get it right.



Add me to the list of requiring more modification on the driver side, which is weird as my passenger side seems more "tucked". Springs on the driver side are usually a little higher to compensate for driver weight from what i understand. Insert driver weight joke here.
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Add me to the list of requiring more modification on the driver side, which is weird as my passenger side seems more "tucked". Springs on the driver side are usually a little higher to compensate for driver weight from what i understand. Insert driver weight joke here.
I just had to shave more material off that side for some reason. I have no idea why lol
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How's the ride compare to stock?
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