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      11-02-2017, 04:32 AM   #1
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M3 compared to the E92 M3 Coupe?

How well does the BMW E93 M3 Convertible drive compared to the E92 M3 Coupe?
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      11-02-2017, 08:39 AM   #2
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It's not as quick and not as stiff. Cutting off the roof reduces torsional stiffness, which means that the suspension and steering don't work quite as well, and the folding metal top and mechanism add 400 lbs to the weight, which doesn't help acceleration, braking, and cornering. That being said, the M3 convertible is one of the best affordable verts you can buy that isn't made by Porsche, and may be enough for you. If performance and handling are on the top of your wish list, get the coupe.
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It's not as quick and not as stiff. Cutting off the roof reduces torsional stiffness, which means that the suspension and steering don't work quite as well, and the folding metal top and mechanism add 400 lbs to the weight, which doesn't help acceleration, braking, and cornering. That being said, the M3 convertible is one of the best affordable verts you can buy that isn't made by Porsche, and may be enough for you. If performance and handling are on the top of your wish list, get the coupe.
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It's not as quick and not as stiff. Cutting off the roof reduces torsional stiffness, which means that the suspension and steering don't work quite as well, and the folding metal top and mechanism add 400 lbs to the weight, which doesn't help acceleration, braking, and cornering. That being said, the M3 convertible is one of the best affordable verts you can buy that isn't made by Porsche, and may be enough for you. If performance and handling are on the top of your wish list, get the coupe.
Pretty good answer. To add, if you're looking for 95% of the performance of the coupe and the additional functionality of the convertible, the E93 is perfect. It's fun and still has the same S65, but it's just slightly heavier, no concern for a DD.
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It's not as quick and not as stiff. Cutting off the roof reduces torsional stiffness, which means that the suspension and steering don't work quite as well, and the folding metal top and mechanism add 400 lbs to the weight, which doesn't help acceleration, braking, and cornering. That being said, the M3 convertible is one of the best affordable verts you can buy that isn't made by Porsche, and may be enough for you. If performance and handling are on the top of your wish list, get the coupe.
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Pretty good answer. To add, if you're looking for 95% of the performance of the coupe and the additional functionality of the convertible, the E93 is perfect. It's fun and still has the same S65, but it's just slightly heavier, no concern for a DD.
And, if you like the sound of the engine and the exhaust note, can't get better than hearing it with the top down.
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Pretty good answer. To add, if you're looking for 95% of the performance of the coupe and the additional functionality of the convertible, the E93 is perfect. It's fun and still has the same S65, but it's just slightly heavier, no concern for a DD.
And, if you like the sound of the engine and the exhaust note, can't get better than hearing it with the top down.
I have both , def a performance difference, weight is weight!
I love the way my convertible drives , love having the top down. I also have a supercharger in the vert.

The E92 is better overall .
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It's not as quick and not as stiff. Cutting off the roof reduces torsional stiffness, which means that the suspension and steering don't work quite as well, and the folding metal top and mechanism add 400 lbs to the weight, which doesn't help acceleration, braking, and cornering. That being said, the M3 convertible is one of the best affordable verts you can buy that isn't made by Porsche, and may be enough for you. If performance and handling are on the top of your wish list, get the coupe.
Nah the e90 handles even better that an e92 so go for the true M3....
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Nah the e90 handles even better that an e92 so go for the true M3....
Why? How so?
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Why? How so?
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I have both , def a performance difference, weight is weight!
I love the way my convertible drives , love having the top down. I also have a supercharger in the vert.

The E92 is better overall .
E93 - Best for option for cruising for E9X in a high performance car in the elements.
E92 - Better than E93 in racing and track and high performance demands, which most E93 owners don't care about.

Given that, I wonder if there's an aftermarket carbon fiber roof panel option for the E93. I know 400lbs was added for reinforcements, but that was primarily for the headrests that pop up in case of a rollover and structural components, of which roof panels are not.
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Nothing was proven there.. It's he says, she says. There is a reason BMW built the GTS on the e92 and not the e90.

I have driven both cars hard and can't tell a difference. As far as lap times, it's all about the driver at that point and the tires/track condition. Calling the e90 faster than the e92 doesn't make sense.
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Nothing was proven there.. It's he says, she says. There is a reason BMW built the GTS on the e92 and not the e90.

I have driven both cars hard and can't tell a difference. As far as lap times, it's all about the driver at that point and the tires/track condition. Calling the e90 faster than the e92 doesn't make sense.
I think the E92 is also lighter by about 40 lbs?
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Nah the e90 handles even better that an e92 so go for the true M3....
I think letting your car sit for 17 months disqualifies you from saying things like this.
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I think the E92 is also lighter by about 40 lbs?
Yes it is. A slicktop E90 weighs as much as my moonroof E92.
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Pretty good answer. To add, if you're looking for 95% of the performance of the coupe and the additional functionality of the convertible, the E93 is perfect. It's fun and still has the same S65, but it's just slightly heavier, no concern for a DD.
This was exactly my take before choosing the E93, too. The E93 trades a half-second in 0-60 and a smidge in handling for the ability to drive a car that can transform from a coupe into a convertible at the touch of a button.

If you're not going to track the car, the difference is pretty negligible. For all the negativity often displayed towards the E93, for me the advantage of the folding hardtop *easily* outweighed the difference in performance between the E92 and E93.

IOW, this question always comes down to "do you want a convertible?" If the answer is 'yes', you'll be quite happy with your E93.
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How well does the BMW E93 M3 Convertible drive compared to the E92 M3 Coupe?
It doesn't....
Next question...
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How well does the BMW E93 M3 Convertible drive compared to the E92 M3 Coupe?
It doesn't....
Next question...
There?s always one !! I?m sure you have spend hours ,days, months behind the wheel of both !!

I?d like some track numbers/times to end this once and for all . All this hate towards the convertibles ???? Btw I have both by accident . Still wouldn?t go as far as your last statement .
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Thanks all to answer to my question. Seem like E92 is the best choice
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