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      02-27-2013, 05:51 PM   #45
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The M3 torque is fine. Silly bunch of whiners, just drive it like it was meant to be driven. This isn't American muscle. I'd rather have that extra 2k RPMs than 100 ftlbs.

I would say the cold engine/transmission jerkiness is my biggest complaint. MPG isn't good but I knew what I was getting into.
Everything else is near perfect for me.
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      02-27-2013, 05:52 PM   #46
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How is wishing it got better MPG any different than all those who wish it had more torque, less weight etc?
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Torque & Weight

If you say MPG you've obviously bought the wrong vehicle.
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      02-27-2013, 05:55 PM   #48
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Heavy, ugly, quiet stock exhaust.
Why'd you buy it then?
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      02-27-2013, 05:56 PM   #49
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car should have been a 4.4 liter V8 at least and have 450hp and alot more torque
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      02-27-2013, 05:57 PM   #50
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weight and brakes
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      02-27-2013, 05:59 PM   #51
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I would like some fly brakes so I'm not tempted to get a BBK.
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      02-27-2013, 06:01 PM   #52
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Why'd you buy it then?
lol wut??

I can afford the car and afford to buy an aftermarket exhaust. Easy fix in my opinion.

Perhaps you should have asked that question to the guys who had problems with the car that are harder to fix such a weight/torque/etc etc.

Im just going to guess you are on the bottle today.
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      02-27-2013, 06:03 PM   #53
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Cars with crazy low end torque, especially the American ones, are very fun for weekend drives but they are painful to drive every day and on long trips. The balance of the M3 between street functionality and track capabilities is it's greatest asset I believe.
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      02-27-2013, 06:05 PM   #54
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Torque
If it had 400 foot pounds like the next M3, it would have been awesome
+1 Torque and Weight

Isn't ironic? the new M3s will be in about the same range stock as tuned n54s with full bolt ons.
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      02-27-2013, 06:15 PM   #55
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weight and brakes
+1. As someone who had a supercharger on the car and now doesn't, I can confidently say the car doesn't need more power. It just needs to lose a few hundred pounds and be able to handle a full track session without brake fade. People who want a faster 0-60 or 1/4 mile just bought the wrong car.
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      02-27-2013, 06:17 PM   #56
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The M3 torque is fine. Silly bunch of whiners, just drive it like it was meant to be driven. This isn't American muscle. I'd rather have that extra 2k RPMs than 100 ftlbs.

I would say the cold engine/transmission jerkiness is my biggest complaint. MPG isn't good but I knew what I was getting into.
Everything else is near perfect for me.

Exactly!!! The S65 V8 has plenty of torque and plenty of power if you drive the car the way is meant to be driven. I don't quite understand all the complaints about torque, even my AP1 S2K's torque feels fine at 153 lbs/ft at 7.5k rpms and max 9K rpms

This car is pretty much the pinacle of driving, so the only thing I would suggest is weight reduction but I would not say it is a weakness.
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lol wut??

I can afford the car and afford to buy an aftermarket exhaust. Easy fix in my opinion.

Perhaps you should have asked that question to the guys who had problems with the car that are harder to fix such a weight/torque/etc etc.

Im just going to guess you are on the bottle today.
You can also strip weight out of the car and add a tune to bump up torque/HP. Since you're calling it "ugly" I think the body style is the hardest to fix.
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      02-27-2013, 06:34 PM   #58
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You can also strip weight out of the car and add a tune to bump up torque/HP. Since you're calling it "ugly" I think the body style is the hardest to fix.
I was talking about the exhaust..... it is ugly.... heavy.... and quiet
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      02-27-2013, 06:38 PM   #59
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Weight and fuel consumption. THAT'S IT! Handles its weight very well but would love to see it 300 lbs lighter.
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I would say the cold engine/transmission jerkiness is my biggest complaint. MPG isn't good but I knew what I was getting into.
Everything else is near perfect for me.
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I'm glad that I'm not the only person who has noted the lurching with a cold engine.
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      02-27-2013, 06:50 PM   #62
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I'm glad that I'm not the only person who has noted the lurching with a cold engine.
+1, and +1 with brakes and weight.
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The M3 torque is fine. Silly bunch of whiners, just drive it like it was meant to be driven. This isn't American muscle. I'd rather have that extra 2k RPMs than 100 ftlbs.
+1

Well said.
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      02-27-2013, 07:10 PM   #64
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If the car was 300 pounds less I think that alone would solve the brake issue as the stock brakes for the purpose of the car are already great but knock it down to e46 weight and the stock e90 m3 brakes would do just fine.

Really the downfall (if there even can be considered one) is the missed opportunity to make this a 3250 pound car with a high strung V8. I love it how it is though!
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      02-27-2013, 07:16 PM   #66
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Gas mileage..
which is related to weight so yeah~
and Brake system
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