Question regarding VF 540. Whats exactly needed to upgrade to VF620

Skooterbrah · 02-20-2013, 03:45 AM

I checked the VF-Engineering site and did a search. From what i'm reading, just an aftercooler is needed and is "easily" tossed into the VF540 manifold... I have an opportunity to get my hands on a 540 kit, but would like to upgrade, so i'm looking for specific details on what would be needed and the $$ needed to upgrade the kit. Thanks!

Superfly_M3 · 02-20-2013, 03:55 AM

Pulley size is different, tune, belts, Intercooler (FMIC), heat exchancher in the Intake manifold. Thats all I can think of right now.

leigh · 02-20-2013, 04:30 AM

And injectors

SouthShoreM3 · 02-20-2013, 12:46 PM

I believe they use the same size injectors as well

VCMperformance · 02-20-2013, 01:10 PM

Call or email VF and you will get all info you need

Chriskm3 · 02-20-2013, 07:20 PM

Around 5000 to upgrade. They had specials on recently fans to upgrade the kit wa 4800.
Best way To go about it. Or just buy a used 620 kit that is currently listed for sale.

rjd598 · 02-20-2013, 07:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Chriskm3

Around 5000 to upgrade. They had specials on recently fans to upgrade the kit wa 4800.
Best way To go about it. Or just buy a used 620 kit that is currently listed for sale.

5000 to upgrade?? really?? price seems steep considering the price difference between their 540 and 620 is a little over 5k

Chriskm3 · 02-20-2013, 07:39 PM

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Originally Posted by rjd598

5000 to upgrade?? really?? price seems steep considering the price difference between their 540 and 620 is a little over 5k

That's exactly it. The price is of that exactly. Cost if 620 minus 540 = upgrade cost
It's nice that there no loss on the vf540 kit when upgrading to a bigger kit is in question.

tom @ eas · 02-20-2013, 07:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Chriskm3

That's exactly it. The price is of that exactly. Cost if 620 minus 540 = upgrade cost
It's nice that there no loss on the vf540 kit when upgrading to a bigger kit is in question.

Until you factor in labor.

Chriskm3 · 02-20-2013, 07:46 PM

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Originally Posted by tom @ eas

Until you factor in labor.

There is labour on everything.

tom @ eas · 02-20-2013, 07:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Chriskm3

There is labour on everything.

Of course, but we're talking comparisons.

A VF540 installed, then upgraded to a VF620 will cost more in the end rather than purchasing the VF620 outright due to the additional labor costs involved. The manifold is removed for heat exchanger installation, pulleys swapped. On the VF systems, the supercharger bracket must be removed for belt changes.

You've essentially uninstalled 50% of the kit going this route. You can never recoup labor in resale.

If funds permit, simply get the intercooled kit.

Chriskm3 · 02-20-2013, 08:02 PM

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Originally Posted by tom @ eas

Of course, but we're talking comparisons.

A VF540 installed, then upgraded to a VF620 will cost more in the end rather than purchasing the VF620 outright due to the additional labor costs involved. The manifold is removed for heat exchanger installation, pulleys swapped. On the VF systems, the supercharger bracket must be removed for belt changes.

You've essentially uninstalled 50% of the kit going this route. You can never recoup labor in resale.

If funds permit, simply get the intercooled kit.

This route provides options for drivers who require maximum hp that budget allows at that time

VF-Engineering · 02-21-2013, 01:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Skooterbrah

I checked the VF-Engineering site and did a search. From what i'm reading, just an aftercooler is needed and is "easily" tossed into the VF540 manifold... I have an opportunity to get my hands on a 540 kit, but would like to upgrade, so i'm looking for specific details on what would be needed and the $$ needed to upgrade the kit. Thanks!

The upgrade kit from VF540 to VF620 includes:

- Slide-in air:water heat exchanger
- Front mount radiator assembly w/bracket
- Factory grade water lines and fittings
- Bosch water pump
- upgraded pulley and belt
- Custom VF-software flash
(A new Hex Flash OBD2 Cable and PC program will be included for 2nd hand customers)
- 1 year/12 mile warranty for the upgrade parts
- Price: $5200 (difference from VF540 to VF620)

We recommend the VF540 as our Streetsport system for drivers not looking for maximum power, but just a nice boost for everyday driving and that punch when the need calls

. We recommend the VF620 or VF650 for drivers who use their cars for both street and track or those who are going for the high HP numbers. Most VF540 customers couldn't resist and have already upgraded to VF620

Sliding in the heat exchanger into your current VF540 manifold saves downtime and labor.

Hex Flash cable:

Let me know if you have any questions. Happy to assist.

ussoldierforhire · 02-21-2013, 01:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tom @ eas

Of course, but we're talking comparisons.

A VF540 installed, then upgraded to a VF620 will cost more in the end rather than purchasing the VF620 outright due to the additional labor costs involved. The manifold is removed for heat exchanger installation, pulleys swapped. On the VF systems, the supercharger bracket must be removed for belt changes.

You've essentially uninstalled 50% of the kit going this route. You can never recoup labor in resale.

If funds permit, simply get the intercooled kit.

The kit isnt installed yet so all of this can be done when he installs the kit upgraded. This negates extra labor cost.

lenzm3edan · 02-21-2013, 02:53 PM

so the Vf540 uses the same manifold as the VF620 minus the heat exchanger that can simply be added. To upgrade the ESS 550 to 625 the whole manifold needs changing.

VF-Engineering · 02-21-2013, 05:59 PM

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Originally Posted by lenzm3edan

so the Vf540 uses the same manifold as the VF620 minus the heat exchanger that can simply be added. To upgrade the ESS 550 to 625 the whole manifold needs changing.

Correct. We provide the same exact manifolds for all Levels we offer for the E9x M3's.

The VF540 comes with a block-off plate in place of the slide-in cassette heat exchanger. You can see the plate below:

VF620/650 manifold

lenzm3edan · 02-21-2013, 09:00 PM

Nice.

THE-FN-MAN · 02-22-2013, 12:54 AM

Sweet set up, does Mckenna BMW still install these kits?

Orange fever · 02-22-2013, 01:18 AM

why you keep asking that q? you want to which to a vf kit ?

Quote:

Originally Posted by THE-FN-MAN

Sweet set up, does Mckenna BMW still install these kits?

you can call them to get your answer , but YES they still do

VCMpower · 02-22-2013, 01:54 AM

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Originally Posted by VF-Engineering

Quote:

Originally Posted by Skooterbrah

I checked the VF-Engineering site and did a search. From what i'm reading, just an aftercooler is needed and is "easily" tossed into the VF540 manifold... I have an opportunity to get my hands on a 540 kit, but would like to upgrade, so i'm looking for specific details on what would be needed and the $$ needed to upgrade the kit. Thanks!

The upgrade kit from VF540 to VF620 includes:

- Slide-in air:water heat exchanger
- Front mount radiator assembly w/bracket
- Factory grade water lines and fittings
- Bosch water pump
- upgraded pulley and belt
- Custom VF-software flash
(A new Hex Flash OBD2 Cable and PC program will be included for 2nd hand customers)
- 1 year/12 mile warranty for the upgrade parts
- Price: $5200 (difference from VF540 to VF620)

We recommend the VF540 as our Streetsport system for drivers not looking for maximum power, but just a nice boost for everyday driving and that punch when the need calls

. We recommend the VF620 or VF650 for drivers who use their cars for both street and track or those who are going for the high HP numbers. Most VF540 customers couldn't resist and have already upgraded to VF620

Sliding in the heat exchanger into your current VF540 manifold saves downtime and labor.

Hex Flash cable:

Let me know if you have any questions. Happy to assist.

THE-FN-MAN · 02-22-2013, 12:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Orange fever

why you keep asking that q? you want to which to a vf kit ?

Quote:

Originally Posted by THE-FN-MAN

Sweet set up, does Mckenna BMW still install these kits?

you can call them to get your answer , but YES they still do

Thanks orange

so kind of you. How's your kit running? Lol

Sal@AUTOcouture · 02-28-2013, 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by VF-Engineering

Correct. We provide the same exact manifolds for all Levels we offer for the E9x M3's.

The VF540 comes with a block-off plate in place of the slide-in cassette heat exchanger. You can see the plate below:

VF620/650 manifold

Very nice touch

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02-20-2013, 03:55 AM	#2
Superfly_M3 Captain Drives: 2011 M3 Sedan Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Toronto Posts: 882 iTrader: (0)	Pulley size is different, tune, belts, Intercooler (FMIC), heat exchancher in the Intake manifold. Thats all I can think of right now.

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leigh Captain Drives: 2011 e92 zcp m3 Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: melbourne Posts: 612 iTrader: (0)	And injectors

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SouthShoreM3 Passes everything but the gas station Drives: 2010 E90 M3 Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Boston, MA Posts: 210 iTrader: (0)	I believe they use the same size injectors as well

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VCMperformance Private First Class Drives: Tech at vcm auto Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Victoria, bc Canada Posts: 123 iTrader: (0)	Call or email VF and you will get all info you need

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THE-FN-MAN Lieutenant Drives: E92 M3 x2 Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: the wood Posts: 490 iTrader: (0)	Sweet set up, does Mckenna BMW still install these kits?