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      02-15-2013, 10:34 PM   #23
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When I went to the Porsche Driving Experience, I was amazed at how soft/smooth the professional drivers shifted.

Hurley Haywood, shifted gears using 3 fingers and gently slipping it in gear. It was still fast, but oh so smooth. The shifting was all in wrists and his shoulder and elbow hardly moved.

I found that the 1st to 2nd gear change is pretty smooth if you feather it in.
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      02-15-2013, 11:01 PM   #24
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It also took me a while to master the M3 gearbox/clutch combo just right..now I love it

There is a finesse to the 1-2 shift.
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      02-16-2013, 02:39 AM   #25
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Congratz on the new car! The second gear resistance is a common issue with this car. Once you know its there you adjust the shift for it.

PS: change the oil i drop mine every 5000kms
Which corresponds to 3k miles? IMHO, that's overkill, but it's your car and your choice of course. Assuming it's mostly street driven, 7k miles should be no problem.

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Timely thread. In the past two days I've put 230 miles on my car, and I've been embarrassed how rough my shifts to 2nd have been. This clutch is nothing like my E36 M3! (Or any of the other three manuals I've had.)
I looked like a complete idiot on the streets the first day I got mine and I'd say I've never had problems driving manuals. Had to chop the stock gearknob the same night. Just couldn't bare it, and when I replaced it with a ZHP knob, all was well.

Had a chance to drive an E46 Dinan S3 and when I jumped back in my E92, it almost felt like there was a problem with my slave cylinder since the clutch was so light. Having said that, I can shift really smoothly now with the E92. Couldn't say the same about the E46 M3, no matter what I tried.
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      02-16-2013, 12:26 PM   #26
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When I went to the Porsche Driving Experience, I was amazed at how soft/smooth the professional drivers shifted.

Hurley Haywood, shifted gears using 3 fingers and gently slipping it in gear. It was still fast, but oh so smooth. The shifting was all in wrists and his shoulder and elbow hardly moved.

I found that the 1st to 2nd gear change is pretty smooth if you feather it in.
Exactly.

Revs do drop very fast with the S65 on a fully closed throttle, so keeping the throttle slightly open, makes a huge difference to the work that the 2nd gear syncro has to do.

Finesse with throttle and lever works wonders.
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Exactly.

Revs do drop very fast with the S65 on a fully closed throttle, so keeping the throttle slightly open, makes a huge difference to the work that the 2nd gear syncro has to do.

Finesse with throttle and lever works wonders.
Agree with this 100%
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I too just recently got a 6MT -- takes a bit of getting used to with the high engagement point and 1-2 shift. I'm up for the challenge though...and getting the shift smooth is very rewarding (especially the downshift).
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      05-18-2013, 02:59 PM   #29
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My e85 M roadster exhibited the same issue switching to second gear. Very annoying, especially after driving the car back to back with a Porsche or Honda/Acura.

I just bought an e92 two days ago (!) and while the car is amazing, I was very disappointed when I shifted into second and felt the same notchiness / catching issue. The members who mentioned that this is something to get used to and compensate for are totally correct, but nevertheless its definitely a bug and not a feature.

Oh well, otherwise the car is simply amazing in the short time I had it!
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The clutch is soft and I was a former owner of an E86 M and the Z4MC clutch felt better.

However ever since the 2000 S2000 2nd gear grind issues (which I thought didn't exist and finally did) I have always adapted to shifting and to me the gear/shifting issues I have read on the E92 M3 are a non-issue for me.

Overall its a luxury sports coupe/sedan, not a race/drag car.
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Which corresponds to 3k miles? IMHO, that's overkill, but it's your car and your choice of course. Assuming it's mostly street driven, 7k miles should be no problem.
I know your right... Thing is ever since I was young I had this thing with fluid changes. I feel like if you change it often the car will last longer.
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The clutch is soft and I was a former owner of an E86 M and the Z4MC clutch felt better.

However ever since the 2000 S2000 2nd gear grind issues (which I thought didn't exist and finally did) I have always adapted to shifting and to me the gear/shifting issues I have read on the E92 M3 are a non-issue for me.

Overall its a luxury sports coupe/sedan, not a race/drag car.
Me as well and I agree, but it didn't take long to adapt to the M3 clutch and I believe I have the old style single spring.
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