BMW M3 Forum (E90 E92)

BMW Garage BMW Meets Register Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read


Go Back   M3Post - BMW M3 Forum > E90/E92 M3 Technical Topics > Wheels + Tires Sponsored by The Tire Rack
  TireRack

KEEP M3POST ALIVE BY DOING YOUR TIRERACK SHOPPING FROM THIS BANNER LINK!
Post Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
      02-13-2013, 12:42 AM   #1
mscdman
Private First Class
 
Drives: 335xi
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: Denver

Posts: 150
iTrader: (0)

Are spacers safe & reliable?

I am debating adding 20mm spacers to my rear wheels for my winter setup just to bring the offset back to stock. I was thinking of turner motors sports spacers.

I asked a few tire dealers how much the spacers would be to install and they all said they wouldn't touch them and that they frequently see issues with the wheel not seating correctly with the hub.

So, how safe are spacers? Do they give more vibration than without? Do I have to go to an Indy shop to install? (I don't have the tools)
mscdman is offline  
0
Reply With Quote
      02-13-2013, 12:46 AM   #2
Vic311
Banned
 
Drives: 2011 e92 M3
Join Date: Dec 2012
Location: NY

Posts: 1,469
iTrader: (0)

If installed right and wheels are torqued correctly...you should be fine

with that said I wouldnt go that big in the rear..12mm is max imo
Vic311 is offline   United_States
0
Reply With Quote
      02-13-2013, 01:05 AM   #3
mscdman
Private First Class
 
Drives: 335xi
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: Denver

Posts: 150
iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Vic311
If installed right and wheels are torqued correctly...you should be fine

with that said I wouldnt go that big in the rear..12mm is max imo
12 won't bring them back to stock offset. I have 4 front OEM 219M. Why do you say you wouldn't run more than 12?
mscdman is offline  
0
Reply With Quote
      02-13-2013, 01:11 AM   #4
Vic311
Banned
 
Drives: 2011 e92 M3
Join Date: Dec 2012
Location: NY

Posts: 1,469
iTrader: (0)

Just my preference..the larger sizes leave more chance for issues..especially to the wheels under power..

Its not a big deal if you run a slightly higher offset for the winter and the front wheels are an 8.5 width (rears are 9.5) which should mean no clearance issues
Vic311 is offline   United_States
0
Reply With Quote
      02-13-2013, 01:21 AM   #5
mscdman
Private First Class
 
Drives: 335xi
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: Denver

Posts: 150
iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Vic311
Just my preference..the larger sizes leave more chance for issues..especially to the wheels under power..

Its not a big deal if you run a slightly higher offset for the winter and the front wheels are an 8.5 width (rears are 9.5) which should mean no clearance issues
Yeah I have all 4 8.5 width. I honestly don't know what it look like yet....I just assume it will look horrible without the 19mm spacers...
mscdman is offline  
0
Reply With Quote
      02-13-2013, 10:56 AM   #6
Powerbeast
Major General
 
Powerbeast's Avatar
 
Drives: E90 M3 Dakar Yellow
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: SoCal

Posts: 7,083
iTrader: (4)

Yes they are safe and reliable
Powerbeast is offline   United_States
0
Reply With Quote
      02-13-2013, 10:57 AM   #7
THE TECH
BimmerPost Supporting Vendor

 
THE TECH's Avatar
 
Drives: BPMsport 2012 E92 M3
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Kansas

Posts: 13,104
iTrader: (45)

Garage List
Send a message via AIM to THE TECH Send a message via Skype™ to THE TECH
20mm?? What wheels?
__________________
THE TECH is offline   United_States
0
Reply With Quote
      02-13-2013, 11:08 AM   #8
slicer
Brigadier General
 
slicer's Avatar
 
Drives: '13 E92 M3
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: San Diego, CA

Posts: 3,774
iTrader: (12)

Safe and reliable if you purchase a quality hub-centric spacer with the appropriate length lugs. My favorite spacers are Turner Motorsports.
__________________
ALL PARTS FOR SALE - KW Clubsport 3-way, Akrapovic Evolution, ESS Tune, StopTech Trophy, IND Euro Bumper & Black Mirror Covers, Turner Motorsports Studs/Lugs & Delrin Diff Bushings, MRF Solid Sub-Frame Bushings, RD Sport Sways, Recaro Profi-XL & Planted Seat Brackets, BMW Performance Carbon Fiber Interior Trim, BMW Edition Grills/Gills, Mode Carbon GT4 Splitter & GTS Wing, BBS E05 (18x10/11)
slicer is online now  
0
Reply With Quote
      02-13-2013, 11:10 AM   #9
THE TECH
BimmerPost Supporting Vendor

 
THE TECH's Avatar
 
Drives: BPMsport 2012 E92 M3
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Kansas

Posts: 13,104
iTrader: (45)

Garage List
Send a message via AIM to THE TECH Send a message via Skype™ to THE TECH
Quote:
Originally Posted by slicer View Post
My favorite spacers are Turner Motorsports.
Hands down the best.
__________________
THE TECH is offline   United_States
0
Reply With Quote
      02-13-2013, 12:52 PM   #10
gatorfast
Colonel
 
gatorfast's Avatar
 
Drives: MR E90 M3
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: SoFla

Posts: 2,606
iTrader: (3)

Im running the Turner 12.5mm spacers with no issues whatsoever.
gatorfast is online now  
0
Reply With Quote
      02-13-2013, 01:38 PM   #11
Detroit M3
Major
 
Detroit M3's Avatar
 
Drives: Murdered E92 M3
Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: Bloomfield Hills

Posts: 1,089
iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by slicer View Post
Safe and reliable if you purchase a quality hub-centric spacer with the appropriate length lugs. My favorite spacers are Turner Motorsports.
+1
__________________
E92. ModeCarbon. iND. eisenmann. ACM Test Pipe. BPM Sport. KW.
Detroit M3 is offline  
0
Reply With Quote
      02-13-2013, 03:37 PM   #12
tpowerdinny
Specialist
 
Drives: A Tricycle
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: NYC

Posts: 670
iTrader: (4)

Rogue is fantastic and very lightweight. I've also used H&R and Adaptec by Motorsports-Tech which are also hubcentric with lip and appropriate longer bolts. I haven't ever had any issues with them. Just make sure they are installed properly.
tpowerdinny is offline  
0
Reply With Quote
      02-13-2013, 06:50 PM   #13
mscdman
Private First Class
 
Drives: 335xi
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: Denver

Posts: 150
iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by THE TECH
20mm?? What wheels?
219m OEM 18 x 8.5 fronts (offset) being run on the rear makes them about 19mm shy of what they should be.
mscdman is offline  
0
Reply With Quote
      02-13-2013, 06:59 PM   #14
Z K
Colonel
 
Z K's Avatar
 
Drives: E90 M3
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: San Francisco

Posts: 2,114
iTrader: (3)

Quote:
Originally Posted by mscdman View Post
219m OEM 18 x 8.5 fronts (offset) being run on the rear makes them about 19mm shy of what they should be.
That will look terrible... just use the rear wheels in the rear. The front wheels have less concave on the spokes and are less wide .. it will make it very obvious that you have large spacers on small wheels. It's up to you, but the result is not pretty.
Z K is offline   United_States
0
Reply With Quote
      02-13-2013, 07:01 PM   #15
Vic311
Banned
 
Drives: 2011 e92 M3
Join Date: Dec 2012
Location: NY

Posts: 1,469
iTrader: (0)

+3 for TMS Spacers.
Vic311 is offline   United_States
0
Reply With Quote
      02-13-2013, 08:03 PM   #16
mscdman
Private First Class
 
Drives: 335xi
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: Denver

Posts: 150
iTrader: (0)

Quote:

That will look terrible... just use the rear wheels in the rear. The front wheels have less concave on the spokes and are less wide .. it will make it very obvious that you have large spacers on small wheels. It's up to you, but the result is not pretty.
Do you think if I had rear wheels I wouldn't use them? I have 4 fronts only. That's how they were bought
mscdman is offline  
0
Reply With Quote
      02-13-2013, 08:48 PM   #17
M3SQRD
Colonel
 
M3SQRD's Avatar
 
Drives: E92 M3s, R56 Cooper S
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: EC

Posts: 2,479
iTrader: (2)

Spacers are safe to use if installed properly and the correct length lug bolts are used.

I've used 10, 12, and 15 mm Turner and MS spacers. Not a single vibration with any of the Turner spacers yet when I switch to MS spacers on the same wheels I had significant steering wheel vibrations - Turner spacers

For a winter setup, I don't see any issue with running four 219M 18x8.5"et29 wheels. I'd definitely run the correct spacer thickness, even if it's > 12 mm, on the rear 8.5et29 to match the frontspacing of the 219M 18x9.5et23 rear wheel.
M3SQRD is offline   United_States
0
Reply With Quote
      02-14-2013, 02:54 PM   #18
mscdman
Private First Class
 
Drives: 335xi
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: Denver

Posts: 150
iTrader: (0)

I'm going to try putting them on the rear today and see how it looks without spacera
mscdman is offline  
0
Reply With Quote
      02-14-2013, 04:07 PM   #19
e1000
that's what SHE said!
 
Drives: 2011 E92 M3 ZCP
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: OC

Posts: 1,076
iTrader: (1)

Another vote for TMS spacers. Love mine. A good, high quality spacer and proper length lug bolts are perfectly safe to use. I believe adapters are suggested for anything over 20mm however.

http://www.m3post.com/forums/showthr...27#post8267827
__________________
e1000 is offline  
0
Reply With Quote
      02-14-2013, 06:14 PM   #20
thegeneral101
Colonel
 
Drives: '13 M3 LRE,'13 750Li
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Miami/Michigan

Posts: 2,302
iTrader: (0)

I ran Macht Schnell 15mm back 12mm front for 3 years and never had an issue. Of course it would make sense that since the bolts are longer, there is a higher probability of failure...but not sure how material.

Detailed thread here:
http://www.m3post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=262054
__________________
thegeneral101 is offline   United_States
0
Reply With Quote
      02-14-2013, 07:50 PM   #21
mscdman
Private First Class
 
Drives: 335xi
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: Denver

Posts: 150
iTrader: (0)

Well put them on...it's too sunk in. So I ordered the 20mm turner motor sports spacers. Hope there is no vibration
mscdman is offline  
0
Reply With Quote
      02-20-2013, 08:15 AM   #22
gimmethemuumuu
First Lieutenant
 
Drives: '08 M3 Sedan & '07 328i Wagon
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Indianapolis, IN

Posts: 304
iTrader: (1)

If the spacers don't work out, I still have a full set of 219's in satin finish for sale. Given that there's a bit of rash on two of the wheels, my price will reflect that.

You could get these for your car. Then, you could unload your existing four fronts on the non-M guys, who'd be glad to have 'em

PM me if you're interested

Last edited by gimmethemuumuu; 02-20-2013 at 08:59 AM.
gimmethemuumuu is offline   United_States
0
Reply With Quote
Post Reply

Bookmarks

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 09:57 AM.




m3post
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.7.0
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
1Addicts.com, BIMMERPOST.com, E90Post.com, F30Post.com, M3Post.com, ZPost.com, 5Post.com, 6Post.com, 7Post.com, XBimmers.com logo and trademark are properties of BIMMERPOST