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      10-30-2014, 12:03 PM   #1
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E90 M3 Comp 6spd- hard to find?

Trying to help a friend source one at a good price. Is it just me or does it seem they are almost impossible to locate. I even have access to auctions and have not found a decent one yet...
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      10-30-2014, 12:11 PM   #2
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only 16% of ALL Worldwide E9X M3 productions were sedans,
and I'm sure less than 50% of those are 6MT
and I'm sure less than 40% of those are LCI (09+)
and I'm sure less than 30% of them are ZCP

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I always looked for Sedan/6MT/LCI combo when I was searching for my car, so I know this is really hard to locate.
But cars are there, especially around this forum + there's always a number of them for sale....
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      10-30-2014, 12:16 PM   #3
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Sedan/6MT/LCI with speedcloth here.
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      10-30-2014, 12:20 PM   #4
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My 2 jet black sedans w/out navi are 1/220.
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      10-30-2014, 12:44 PM   #5
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Why are people talking about LCI when the OP asked about ZCP? On the E90, LCI came in 09, whereas ZCP didn't arrive until 2011 when the E92/93 got their LCI.

Yes OP, you're going to have trouble finding what you want because in addition to E90s always having lower production than E92s and E93s, ZCP wasn't introduced until MY2011, which was the last production model year for the E90, compared to the E92 and E93 which stuck around through MY2013 (though ZCP wasn't available on the E93). And yes a 6MT is going to be rarer than DCT, which is probably even more true on an E90 than E92. I bet the E93 might have the highest DCT take rate of all as a percentage though, largely due to those SoCal boulevard cruisers.

Good luck with your search, hopefully you're not in a rush, not picky about other options, and open to traveling!
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      10-30-2014, 04:26 PM   #6
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Took a few months of patient searching to find my car. Narrowly missed an identically configured car before locating this one. In case you're on mobile or can't see my sig, 2011 ZCP sedan with cloth, clutch, and no iDrive.
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      10-30-2014, 04:29 PM   #7
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go look on bmwusa.com under preowned then unlimited distance. it will pop up options
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      10-30-2014, 04:56 PM   #8
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It took me a while to source mine out too. My buddy basically wants a fully loaded example, low mileage and only White, Lemans,space gray. Makes it even harder to find...
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      10-30-2014, 05:00 PM   #9
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They are out there. Not as common as DCT though. It really bugged me when people/dealers would post a car as a manual, and then when I called on them it was DCT. I looked for awhile and it seemed they showed up in waves. Nothing for a long time, then 2 or 3 would instantly appear. The MT's get snapped up faster than the DCTs...so you have to check daily and be ready to move on one if a good one comes up. It also seemed the miles were somewhat higher than the coupes.
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      10-30-2014, 05:07 PM   #10
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It also seemed the miles were somewhat higher than the coupes.
That's probably true as well. In addition to the fact that E90s are probably more likely to be used as DDs and family haulers, all E90s will be MY2011, whereas the E92s could also be 2012 or 2013, which will generally have fewer miles than MY2011s.
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      10-30-2014, 07:40 PM   #11
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It took me a while to source mine out too. My buddy basically wants a fully loaded example, low mileage and only White, Lemans,space gray. Makes it even harder to find...
Not sure if you stay in Cali, but theres a 2011, that fits the description on cars.com
But its a private seller!
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      10-30-2014, 10:18 PM   #12
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Yea that's definitely a rare combo since you are only looking at 1 model year. I would maybe look for lci sedans and then buy zcp wheels separately. A much greater chance of finding an e90 LCI 6mt than e90 6mt zcp.
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      10-31-2014, 01:27 AM   #13
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I recently bought a e90 m3 2011 manual and accidently got zcp with it. (didn't know I was getting it) nice bonus.

But yes they are hard to find. I would recommend taking a look at carmax they have quite a few come up.

EDIT:

Here is a e90 m3 with competition packet according to vin.


http://www.carmax.com/enus/view-car/...results%20page
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      10-31-2014, 07:20 AM   #14
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      10-31-2014, 09:24 AM   #15
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Most e90 m3 6MT cars I found on the internet were a little bit inflated in price....probably due to rarity...

I waiting for about 6 months and eventually found one with low miles and in jerez black....Just have to be patient!!
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      10-31-2014, 10:14 AM   #16
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      10-31-2014, 10:20 AM   #17
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Why are people talking about LCI when the OP asked about ZCP? On the E90, LCI came in 09, whereas ZCP didn't arrive until 2011 when the E92/93 got their LCI.

Yes OP, you're going to have trouble finding what you want because in addition to E90s always having lower production than E92s and E93s, ZCP wasn't introduced until MY2011, which was the last production model year for the E90, compared to the E92 and E93 which stuck around through MY2013 (though ZCP wasn't available on the E93). And yes a 6MT is going to be rarer than DCT, which is probably even more true on an E90 than E92. I bet the E93 might have the highest DCT take rate of all as a percentage though, largely due to those SoCal boulevard cruisers.

Good luck with your search, hopefully you're not in a rush, not picky about other options, and open to traveling!
Is 2011 the last E90 in the US only? Over here they where made also in 2012. Fewer registered, but still.

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      10-31-2014, 10:24 AM   #18
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Is 2011 the last E90 in the US only? Over here they where made also in 2012. Fewer registered, but still.

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Hmm, well if memory serves, the factory stopped making E90 M3s in September 2011. Maybe in Sweden cars produced after a certain month are called 2012s even though a car made at the same time would have been called a 2011 if it had been sent to the US?
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      10-31-2014, 11:08 AM   #19
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Hmm, well if memory serves, the factory stopped making E90 M3s in September 2011. Maybe in Sweden cars produced after a certain month are called 2012s even though a car made at the same time would have been called a 2011 if it had been sent to the US?
You're probably right mate, had a quick look at a Swedish site compiling (EU) numbers that incl E90 2012, but also state it's usually start Aug/Sept previous year
http://www.m3portal.com/forum/m3e9x_modelljahr.php (you need to improve your Swedish skills for this site...).

Out of curiosity; isn't what is called 2011.75 done in 2H'11? Would that also fold in as a 2012 model..? (we don't use the 2011.5/75 etc language over here).

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I have one...just sold my zcp wheels.

but I don't know if ZCP is worth it....just get some nice suspension and wheels and call it a day.
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      10-31-2014, 11:37 AM   #21
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You're probably right mate, had a quick look at a Swedish site compiling (EU) numbers that incl E90 2012, but also state it's usually start Aug/Sept previous year
http://www.m3portal.com/forum/m3e9x_modelljahr.php (you need to improve your Swedish skills for this site...).

Out of curiosity; isn't what is called 2011.75 done in 2H'11? Would that also fold in as a 2012 model..? (we don't use the 2011.5/75 etc language over here).

Thanks

PS. After I bought my car second hand and bumped into this site and thought the front page looked nice, it turned it was my car they used for the pic...
2011.5 is used for the changes made as of September 2010 production: M Drive standard, manual seats available, Combox, Auto Start/Stop, other stuff. 2011.75 refers to March 2011 production where BMW Apps became available as an option.

And cool about your car being on the front page!
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2011.5 is used for the changes made as of September 2010 production: M Drive standard, manual seats available, Combox, Auto Start/Stop, other stuff. 2011.75 refers to March 2011 production where BMW Apps became available as an option.

And cool about your car being on the front page!
Thanks, and thanks!
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