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      02-04-2013, 10:26 PM   #45
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M4? Maybe... I'm sure it's going to look badass, but will the ///M division be allowed to make a special car? It appears the Accounting and Marketing departments may be gaining a little to much sway in Munich. Sure, the new M4 will sell really well, but will the new voices at BMW rest too much on ///M divisions reputation? If they slap an ///M badge on a less then stellar vehicle, they will eventually end up losing customers.

Yes, gas prices are getting higher and turbo provides cheap power, but where is the innovation in the M4's engine? ///M has long been known for special engines and yes, the engine in the M4 is a fine piece of engineering, but it is no longer cutting edge engineering. AMG is keeping the V8, Ford's V8 Coyote is special and gets excellent millage. BMW seems to be going backwards. Who buys an M to sip on gas? Apparently the customers BMW marketing is targeting. [-JetFalcons Dad!] The gas sippers can have their regular 3 and 4 series. Let ///M Division off the leash.

Anyways, I wasn't planning on ranting...

More excited about the M2 right now (see it's not just a big V8 I'm interested in), and as a class of 2013 owner; I've got plenty of time to let BMW help me decide where and with whom to spend.
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      02-04-2013, 10:29 PM   #46
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Since I'm a sedan kind of guy, I'll add an F80 to the E90 at some point. definitely not the first year, and I'll probably wait for the inevitable LCI.
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      02-05-2013, 12:30 AM   #48
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No idea at this point...need it to be released and assess it then.
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I'll pass. M's peaked with the current e92. Porsche has had turbo six's figured out for some time now. BMW not so much. More cylinders > less for us. The only thing which could eclipse my current M3 might be a Shelby GT500. Possibly an M6, though I don't see a $120k car in my near future.
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I'll keep the e92 M3.

Next car-> 911 Carrera S or Carrera S Cabriolet

The wife has already given the thumbs up to either. Whata wife!!!!
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I will probably get the M4 in a couple of years and turn the E92 M3 into a dedicated track car.
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I'll wait until the new model has been out a few years to make sure the bugs are worked out and then compare against the new Z06 and GT3. I am not a turbo fan after having owned a 2007 335 but keeping an open mind on the tri turbo.
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More excited about the M2 right now
Same here. If all of M is going turbo, I'd rather go smaller/lighter if I get another M some day.
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M4? Maybe... I'm sure it's going to look badass, but will the ///M division be allowed to make a special car? It appears the Accounting and Marketing departments may be gaining a little to much sway in Munich. Sure, the new M4 will sell really well, but will the new voices at BMW rest too much on ///M divisions reputation? If they slap an ///M badge on a less then stellar vehicle, they will eventually end up losing customers.

Yes, gas prices are getting higher and turbo provides cheap power, but where is the innovation in the M4's engine? ///M has long been known for special engines and yes, the engine in the M4 is a fine piece of engineering, but it is no longer cutting edge engineering. AMG is keeping the V8, Ford's V8 Coyote is special and gets excellent millage. BMW seems to be going backwards. Who buys an M to sip on gas? Apparently the customers BMW marketing is targeting. [-JetFalcons Dad!] The gas sippers can have their regular 3 and 4 series. Let ///M Division off the leash.

Anyways, I wasn't planning on ranting...

More excited about the M2 right now (see it's not just a big V8 I'm interested in), and as a class of 2013 owner; I've got plenty of time to let BMW help me decide where and with whom to spend.
+1 to pretty much all of this sentiment. I'm not terribly sure why a substantial contingent are convinced the new M3/M4 will be substantially better than the current generation. The new M5/M6 don't seem to be exactly setting the world on fire, if you refer to recent mag reviews.

I'm disappointed that while many of their direct or indirect competitors are sticking with a V8, BMW thinks it can be successful downsizing the engine to a 6. One of the reasons I went to the M3 from my 335 was missing the responsiveness (and sound) of NA. I also just don't get why BMW needs to make every generation bigger. The current 3 is a decent enough size, if possibly too big.

I guess I'll wait and see, but right now I'd say the odds of making the switch are doubtful.
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      02-05-2013, 11:08 PM   #57
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When I had an e46 I said I would never get an e92, one test drive and I have an e92 lol. So will have to wait and see.
That's my story exactly! And I was warned too lol
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I'll have to drive it and see the final thing to know for sure, but from what we've seen of the 4 series so far and the rumor mill, I'm disappointed by the larger size and rumors of the demise of the V8. Looking forward to seeing what the M2 will be like, and might look at AMG more closely next time.

So far my 2012 E92 has not even 5k miles, so I'm planning to keep it for a few more years. If it holds up mechanically and ages well maybe for quite a while longer.
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What do LCI and ZCP stand for? I did a forum search but couldn't easily find a definition.
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What do LCI and ZCP stand for? I did a forum search but couldn't easily find a definition.
Heard of google?

http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=437487

http://www.m3post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=512804
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For those who are looking at gt3 or porsche turbo those damn prices are stable man aren't they!! I would love an gt3 rs pretty rare these days i seen one go for 150,000
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possibly the LCI 4 door when that comes out, but defnitely no plans to pay early adopter prices
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When I had an e46 I said I would never get an e92, one test drive and I have an e92 lol. So will have to wait and see.
HA! Did the same thing. I now have an '06 ZCP and and '08 E90.
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