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      02-13-2013, 06:18 PM   #45
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Sorry guys for not updating, but I was SO DISSAPOINTED with IND and Eissenman that I didn't want to log any more.

And Yes I'm dissapointed with IND as well because if they wanted they could easily managed a discount or a rebate or any "extra benefit" (assuming they pushed Eissenman to get us a discount).

What Nate from IND told me is that they sell the product so well that there is not need to apply a discount. I really don't have the information to say if that is true or not, but let's be realistic how many exhaust systems can you sell in 1 yr? It's not a cheap product and how much demand can a product like this have?. And with this GB we had 20 potential buyers which could equal maybe X months of sale!! (this is just my opinion).

Anyway, I'm SO dissapointed. I hope we could have more dealers that could care for their potential and existing customers which are us, the one's that spend money for aftermarket parts = the one's in forums.
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There are used Eisenmann's that show up here once in a while if you want to save.

If the manufacturer doesn't want to offer a group buy that's their right, it's a free market after all.
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If the manufacturer doesn't want to offer a group buy that's their right, it's a free market after all.
Everybody understands that. I hope that Eisenmann also understands I will never ever pay their full retail price for a muffler.
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Sorry guys for not updating, but I was SO DISSAPOINTED with IND and Eissenman that I didn't want to log any more.

And Yes I'm dissapointed with IND as well because if they wanted they could easily managed a discount or a rebate or any "extra benefit" (assuming they pushed Eissenman to get us a discount).

What Nate from IND told me is that they sell the product so well that there is not need to apply a discount. I really don't have the information to say if that is true or not, but let's be realistic how many exhaust systems can you sell in 1 yr? It's not a cheap product and how much demand can a product like this have?. And with this GB we had 20 potential buyers which could equal maybe X months of sale!! (this is just my opinion).

Anyway, I'm SO dissapointed. I hope we could have more dealers that could care for their potential and existing customers which are us, the one's that spend money for aftermarket parts = the one's in forums.
Dissapointed in me for trying to help get the group buy going? I did nothing but try and help out but Eisenmann (for many years) has a strict policy of no (new) Eisenmann on ebay or group buys.
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Dissapointed in me for trying to help get the group buy going? I did nothing but try and help out but Eisenmann (for many years) has a strict policy of no (new) Eisenmann on ebay or group buys.
Nate, the guy who wrote this has very few posts. I would like to think he doesn't really know how great iND has been to the members of this forum. I have a feeling he is about to find out.
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I have to respect Eissenman's commercial director decision.

And for IND there is nothing personal and I know how great a company it is, I just believe IND could have done something "extra" for the community, such as giving us a rebate, a discount in another product or even a simple decal. That could have changed the outcome of this failed groupbuy.

Again, its my opinion -

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I have to respect Eissenman's commercial director decision.

And for IND there is nothing personal and I know how great a company it is, I just believe IND could have done something "extra" for the community, such as giving us a rebate, a discount in another product or even a simple decal. That could have changed the outcome of this failed groupbuy.

Again, its my opinion -



Unfortunately Eisenmann has had a consistent policy forbidding group purchases and Ebay transactions due to their often volatile nature. As the official North American Distributor for Eisenmann GmbH IND must follow all Eisenmann sales rules and as a result we are bound by the terms and restrictions Eisenmann places on IND.

This particular group buy was something IND was hoping to push through as a favor to M3Post members for their years of support. We love M3Post and the community we have here, and we did want to provide a one-time group buy to help folks get an Eisenmann system for a discounted price.

Our bargaining tactic with Eisenmann was to sell the idea behind this group buy as an extremely low volume transaction- something that wouldn't "rock the boat" too much.

The terms requested by the people setting up the group buy were more than the terms Eisenmann was willing to accept. Eisenmann made the business decision not to support the group buy, and stick by their long-standing policy. Ultimately the decision is theirs, and it was the need for extreme concessions on Eisenmann's end that closed the group buy.



With all of that being said, if anyone who initially expressed interest in the group buy would like an IND decal as a token of our appreciation we will of course gladly send one your way! Just send a PM to myself or Jesal@IND and we will take care of it.

We are extremely grateful for all of the support from M3Post, and we're sorry that we could not put a purchase together at this time.
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Unfortunately Eisenmann has had a consistent policy forbidding group purchases and Ebay transactions due to their often volatile nature. As the official North American Distributor for Eisenmann GmbH IND must follow all Eisenmann sales rules and as a result we are bound by the terms and restrictions Eisenmann places on IND.

This particular group buy was something IND was hoping to push through as a favor to M3Post members for their years of support. We love M3Post and the community we have here, and we did want to provide a one-time group buy to help folks get an Eisenmann system for a discounted price.

Our bargaining tactic with Eisenmann was to sell the idea behind this group buy as an extremely low volume transaction- something that wouldn't "rock the boat" too much.

The terms requested by the people setting up the group buy were more than the terms Eisenmann was willing to accept. Eisenmann made the business decision not to support the group buy, and stick by their long-standing policy. Ultimately the decision is theirs, and it was the need for extreme concessions on Eisenmann's end that closed the group buy.



With all of that being said, if anyone who initially expressed interest in the group buy would like an IND decal as a token of our appreciation we will of course gladly send one your way! Just send a PM to myself or Jesal@IND and we will take care of it.

We are extremely grateful for all of the support from M3Post, and we're sorry that we could not put a purchase together at this time.
Thanks for your support. Can you do a groupbuy of another exhaust system? Remus?
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