Aquaplanning with Michelin Super Sport tyres

EuropeEurope · 02-02-2013, 06:05 PM

Half a year later the car was totaled in a similar incident. DSC never kicked in despite it was on (not MDM). The tyres where less than a week old.

The crash was exactly like this one LINK HERE but thankfully wiht wire fence (made to crash into) so it was elastic and the car did not roll over but spun 360 degrees and was a total loss.

Take it easy guys :I

Talk2meg00se · 02-02-2013, 07:07 PM

have michelin pilot S tires on mine - the car is borderline scary to drive in even moderate moisture.

any throttle at all and the wheels spin and the tail kicks out . . . no fun

gblansten · 02-02-2013, 07:40 PM

This thread will likely get moved to the Wheels and Tires section right next to the exact thread made 1-31-2013.

///M Power-Belgium · 02-02-2013, 08:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Talk2meg00se

have michelin pilot S tires on mine - the car is borderline scary to drive in even moderate moisture.

any throttle at all and the wheels spin and the tail kicks out . . . no fun

Verry strange...i also run PSS an have good traction in the wet, but in extreem conditions, with a lot of water on the road ,and at to high speeds every profile get filled with water....result....water on water, we call it aquaplanning...then you need good luck.
Second opportunity...used profile...with the same result !!!

Vic311 · 02-02-2013, 08:25 PM

Interesting..I thought PSS were supposed to be one the better performing tires in the wet.

///M Power-Belgium · 02-02-2013, 08:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Vic311

Interesting..I thought PSS were supposed to be one the better performing tires in the wet.

Yes they are...Google... tires tests ! and you will see

catherinelam · 02-02-2013, 09:21 PM

repost... ms372 already posted this a few days ago

http://www.m3post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=798632

ms372 · 02-02-2013, 09:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by catherinelam

repost... ms372 already posted this a few days ago

http://www.m3post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=798632

+1

spr · 02-03-2013, 03:00 PM

Cry babbies. Try driving on Cups

EuropeEurope · 02-03-2013, 03:48 PM

Differnce this time is htat I was filming and it was my car

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Originally Posted by ms372

+1

///M Power-Belgium · 02-03-2013, 04:02 PM

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Originally Posted by EuropeEurope

Differnce this time is htat I was filming and it was my car

So...you was filming your car with the aquaplanning !
And then....i think.... your heart stopped beating.....

SenorFunkyPants · 02-03-2013, 06:35 PM

I've been driving all winter (including down to -7.5C on untreated icy roads) on PSS's at near the wear markers and live to tell the tale. Its not that difficult to drive within the limit of the grip available...anyone who drives at a speed in wet conditions that puts them at risk of aquaplaning should think of maybe taking some extra driving tuition.

1MtoM3 · 02-03-2013, 06:49 PM

Any tire with low tread will aquaplane .
Be it PSS that come brand new with 4mm of tread , or bald piece of shit tires.

SenorFunkyPants · 02-04-2013, 03:23 AM

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Originally Posted by 1MtoM3

Be it PSS that come brand new with 4mm of tread ,

PSSs come with the same ~8mm of tread as the PS2 or Contis or whatever.

OC3 · 02-05-2013, 04:54 AM

Looks like my car in December when I was coming back from Chuckwalla in the rain on worn R-S3's.

EuropeEurope · 02-05-2013, 11:35 AM

Yes, I was quite nervous then

I didnt want want to tbone my own car with a F10 M5

Quote:

Originally Posted by ///M Power-Belgium

So...you was filming your car with the aquaplanning !
And then....i think.... your heart stopped beating.....

edwinm3 · 02-06-2013, 11:24 AM

I've done a few track events on pouring rain and they have been great

LiM3y · 02-06-2013, 11:37 AM

The tires were less than a week old...that might have some bearing on the situation as they might not have rubbed off the mold release compound or be fully heat cycled

edwinm3 · 02-06-2013, 01:26 PM

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Originally Posted by LiM3y

The tires were less than a week old...that might have some bearing on the situation as they might not have rubbed off the mold release compound or be fully heat cycled

True

New_m3 · 02-08-2013, 06:12 PM

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Originally Posted by 1MtoM3

Any tire with low tread will aquaplane .
Be it PSS that come brand new with 4mm of tread , or bald piece of shit tires.

Maybe your thinking of the pilot sport cup tyres which come with 4mm of tread when they are new. The pilot super sport have 8mm.

GregW / Oregon · 02-09-2013, 12:04 AM

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Originally Posted by New_m3

Maybe your thinking of the pilot sport cup tyres which come with 4mm of tread when they are new. The pilot super sport have 8mm.

Yes, and any tire with aquaplane given enough water or speed. My new PSSs have benn great here in rainy Oregon.

1MOREMOD · 02-09-2013, 12:13 AM

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Originally Posted by spr

Cry babbies. Try driving on Cups

+1. i was at the track last week on nt01s in the rain and did 135 on the front straight?

02-02-2013, 06:05 PM	#1
EuropeEurope New Member Drives: BMW M3 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Europe Posts: 8 iTrader: (0)	Aquaplanning with Michelin Super Sport tyres Half a year later the car was totaled in a similar incident. DSC never kicked in despite it was on (not MDM). The tyres where less than a week old. The crash was exactly like this one LINK HERE but thankfully wiht wire fence (made to crash into) so it was elastic and the car did not roll over but spun 360 degrees and was a total loss. Take it easy guys :I
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02-02-2013, 07:07 PM	#2
Talk2meg00se First Lieutenant Drives: 2008 E92 M3 Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 390 iTrader: (0)	have michelin pilot S tires on mine - the car is borderline scary to drive in even moderate moisture. any throttle at all and the wheels spin and the tail kicks out . . . no fun __________________ SSII \| Speed cloth \| 6MT \| Tint \| EDC \| MS Stage 2 Intake \| ESS Tune \| MS Pulley \| OEM GTS Wheels + Michelin Pilots \| MS Spacers \| Akrapovic slip-on [+CF tips]

02-03-2013, 06:35 PM	#12
SenorFunkyPants Major Drives: E92 DCT M3 Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: UK Posts: 1,317 iTrader: (0)	I've been driving all winter (including down to -7.5C on untreated icy roads) on PSS's at near the wear markers and live to tell the tale. Its not that difficult to drive within the limit of the grip available...anyone who drives at a speed in wet conditions that puts them at risk of aquaplaning should think of maybe taking some extra driving tuition. __________________

02-03-2013, 06:49 PM	#13
1MtoM3 HayZeus Drives: 2012 E92 M3 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Brossard , Canada Posts: 274 iTrader: (0)	Any tire with low tread will aquaplane . Be it PSS that come brand new with 4mm of tread , or bald piece of shit tires. __________________ BLOME !!! MW E92 , Turner test pipes , Vorsteiner Titanium catback, TMS spacers, ESS remap , KW sleeves.

02-05-2013, 04:54 AM	#15
OC3 Havin' a blast! Drives: 2013 M3 E92 Jerez Blk DCT ZCP Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: SoCal Posts: 3,734 iTrader: (0)	Looks like my car in December when I was coming back from Chuckwalla in the rain on worn R-S3's. __________________ 2013 E92 M3 Jerez Black DCT ZCP 2011 E90 M3 Jerez Black DCT ZCP (Gone - traded in) 2008 E90 M3 Jerez Black 6MT (Gone - End of Lease)

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gblansten Captain Obvious Drives: 2011 BMW M3 SSII/Black Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Thick ascending limb Posts: 1,255 iTrader: (0)	This thread will likely get moved to the Wheels and Tires section right next to the exact thread made 1-31-2013.

02-02-2013, 08:25 PM	#5
Vic311 Zen Drives: 2011 e92 M3 Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: CA Posts: 849 iTrader: (0)	Interesting..I thought PSS were supposed to be one the better performing tires in the wet.

02-02-2013, 09:21 PM	#7
catherinelam Captain Drives: E90 Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: Montreal, Canada Posts: 699 iTrader: (0)	repost... ms372 already posted this a few days ago http://www.m3post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=798632

02-03-2013, 03:00 PM	#9
spr Second Lieutenant Drives: e92 M3 Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: San Diego Posts: 286 iTrader: (0)	Cry babbies. Try driving on Cups

02-06-2013, 11:24 AM	#17
edwinm3 Captain Drives: 2008 JEREZ BLACK M3 Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Doral Posts: 762 iTrader: (2)	I've done a few track events on pouring rain and they have been great __________________ AA Exhaust, AA X Pipe, AA SSK, AA Geen Air filter, AA Pulley, AA Tune

02-06-2013, 11:37 AM	#18
LiM3y Major Drives: 2008 E90 M3 Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: CT Posts: 1,022 iTrader: (2)	The tires were less than a week old...that might have some bearing on the situation as they might not have rubbed off the mold release compound or be fully heat cycled __________________

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