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      09-04-2007, 12:22 PM   #23
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I was at the BMW dealer in Taiwan last week and they quoted me 94K US dollars for a 325i E93. 335i E93 goes for $108K. None of these models have Idrive or M package.
They dont have a price yet for the E92 M3 but I dont want to know how much they go for lol

ill probably end up getting the 325i E93
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      09-25-2007, 06:17 PM   #24
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UK: 50,625
Germany: 56.008 (w/o 19% luxury tax)
66.650 (with 19% luxury tax)
Italy: 67.900 (incl. tax)
France: 72.900
Switzerland: 97,026 (CHF)
104,400 (CHF, with 7.6% MWST tax)
South Africa: R650,000
Australia: $157,000 (AUD)
Denmark: 1,400,500 (krn)
New Zealand: 169,995 (NZD)
Japan: 9,960,000 (JPY)
Mexico: $87,390 (? member Epacy is this USD ?)
Hong Kong: 1,368,000 (HKD) (estimate or final?)
Netherlands; 99.500,-- ( stock), with some extra`s around 115-120K
Guatemala US$ 118,000 (mine fully loaded, only one this year!!!!! above Carrera S)
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      10-14-2007, 04:16 AM   #25
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UK: 50,625
Germany: 56.008 (w/o 19% luxury tax)
66.650 (with 19% luxury tax)
Italy: 67.900 (incl. tax)
France: 72.900
Switzerland: 97,026 (CHF)
104,400 (CHF, with 7.6% MWST tax)
South Africa: R650,000
Australia: $157,000 (AUD)
Denmark: 1,400,500 (krn)
New Zealand: 169,995 (NZD)
Japan: 9,960,000 (JPY)
Mexico: $87,390 (? member Epacy is this USD ?)
Hong Kong: 1,368,000 (HKD) (estimate or final?)
Netherlands; 99.500,-- ( stock), with some extra`s around 115-120K
Guatemala US$ 118,000 (mine fully loaded, only one this year!!!!! above Carrera S)
Rep. of Ireland: 103,900
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      10-14-2007, 03:00 PM   #26
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Clean up

UK: 50,625
Germany: 56.008 (w/o 19% luxury tax)
..............66.650 (with 19% luxury tax)
Italy: 67.900 (incl. tax)
France: 72.900
Switzerland: 97,026 (CHF)
..................104,400 (CHF, with 7.6% MWST tax)
South Africa: R650,000
Australia: $157,000 (AUD)
Denmark: 1,400,500 (krn)
New Zealand: 169,995 (NZD)
Japan: 9,960,000 (JPY)
Mexico: $87,390 (?)
Hong Kong: 1,368,000 (HKD) (estimate or final?)
Netherlands: 99.500
Guatemala US$ 118,000 (fully loaded or base price?)
Rep. of Ireland: 103,900

Guys: Let's stick to a uniform format for updating the list. Let's also keep all prices at the base price and report the currency with the right symbol in front or note in parenthesis afterwards. Mexico, Hong Kong and Guatemala all need some minor cleaning up. Thanks.
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      10-14-2007, 03:12 PM   #27
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in germany it's sold at 66000 euro. Simple currency conversion gives a US price at $93,000 !! M5 price zone

This is a dilemna for BMW. this prices is outrageous for us customers but if they price it relatively to the old M3 E46 price then they would loose money on it. Therefore BMW would be better off NOT selling the M3 AT ALL on the US market until the US dollar comes back up if it does. Ever wondered why US has to wait until spring 08 for the M3 it's not that they can't get it here before then. There you have it is all because of no profit. But BMW will have to sell the M3 for its image in the us. So they play the clock. The more they wait the more it indicates there is going to be a big price hike. Because the M3 has received mixed reception this further drives BMW to sell it as late as possible in the US. Economically the new M3 is framed to be a bust in the US.
Expect to pay big big $$ for M3 in the US and thank W Bush with the Iraq war which is largely responsible for driving the us dollar down that and the trade deficit.

You may disagree. This is open for discussion.
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      10-14-2007, 04:31 PM   #28
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Just because the currency conversion makes the m3 cost more, doesn't mean it will be in the $90k zone with the M6.

Instead, it will be priced accordingly with the other M models.




Here's a good way to look at the speculated E92 M3 pricing.

Some of BMWUSAs 'starting at' MSRPs:

550i = $58,500
M5 = $82,900
difference of - $24,400

650i = $75,600
M6 = $99,300
difference of - $23,700

650i Convertible = $82,700
M6 Convertible = $105,100
difference of - $22,400

Total average difference of - $24,100

All of these model comparisons were between the top of the line models in their series versus the M model in its series.

Furthermore, the..

335i coupe = $40,800
335i sedan = $38,900

So, based on what the average is, we could safely speculate..

M3 coupe = $64k
M3 sedan = $61k MSRP

For those with hopes of seeing something less pricey I'll say..

M3 coupe = $61-64k
M3 sedan = $58-61k MSRP
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      10-14-2007, 08:31 PM   #29
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UK: £50,625
Germany: €56.008 (w/o 19% luxury tax)
..............€66.650 (with 19% luxury tax)
Italy: €67.900 (incl. tax)
France: €72.900
Switzerland: 97,026 (CHF)
..................104,400 (CHF, with 7.6% MWST tax)
South Africa: R650,000
Australia: $157,000 (AUD)
Denmark: 1,400,500 (krn)
New Zealand: 169,995 (NZD)
Japan: 9,960,000 (JPY)
Mexico: $87,390 (?)
Hong Kong: 1,368,000 (HKD) (estimate or final?)
Netherlands: € 99.500
Guatemala US$ 118,000 fully loaded
Rep. of Ireland: €103,900
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      10-15-2007, 01:22 AM   #30
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Guatemala US$ 118,000 fully loaded
As I mentioned I think it is best if BASE PRICES ONLY are posted. There is simply too much variation in the base specs region by region and as well with the prices of options. If everyone posts what they paid I think the list will not be so meaningful. Can you update the Guatemala pricing with the BASE PRICE? Thanks.
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      10-15-2007, 03:29 AM   #31
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In Germany there's no luxury tax on the car, it's simply a VAT.

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      10-15-2007, 11:29 AM   #32
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Edit

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      10-15-2007, 12:20 PM   #33
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Done

UK: £50,625
Germany: € 56.008 (net price)
..............€ 66.650 (incl. 19% VAT)
Italy: € 67.900 (incl. tax)
France: € 72.900
Switzerland: 97,026 (CHF)
..................104,400 (CHF, incl. 7.6% VAT)
South Africa: R650,000
Australia: $157,000 (AUD)
Denmark: 1,400,500 (krn)
New Zealand: 169,995 (NZD)
Japan: 9,960,000 (JPY)
Mexico: $87,390 (?)
Hong Kong: 1,368,000 (HKD) (estimate or final?)
Netherlands: € 99.500
Guatemala US$ 118,000 (fully loaded)
Rep. of Ireland: €103,900
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      10-15-2007, 04:36 PM   #34
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UK: £50,625
Germany: € 56.008 (net price)
..............€ 66.650 (incl. 19% VAT)
Italy: € 67.900 (incl. tax)
France: € 72.900
Switzerland: 97,026 (CHF)
..................104,400 (CHF, incl. 7.6% VAT)
South Africa: R650,000
Australia: $157,000 (AUD)
Denmark: 1,400,500 (krn)
New Zealand: 169,995 (NZD)
Japan: 9,960,000 (JPY)
Mexico: $87,390 (?)
Hong Kong: 1,368,000 (HKD) (estimate or final?)
Netherlands: € 99.500
Guatemala US$ 95,000 (base model)
Rep. of Ireland: €103,900
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      10-16-2007, 02:15 AM   #35
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Just because the currency conversion makes the m3 cost more, doesn't mean it will be in the $90k zone with the M6.

Instead, it will be priced accordingly with the other M models.




Here's a good way to look at the speculated E92 M3 pricing.

Some of BMWUSAs 'starting at' MSRPs:

550i = $58,500
M5 = $82,900
difference of - $24,400

650i = $75,600
M6 = $99,300
difference of - $23,700

650i Convertible = $82,700
M6 Convertible = $105,100
difference of - $22,400

Total average difference of - $24,100

All of these model comparisons were between the top of the line models in their series versus the M model in its series.

Furthermore, the..

335i coupe = $40,800
335i sedan = $38,900

So, based on what the average is, we could safely speculate..

M3 coupe = $64k
M3 sedan = $61k MSRP

For those with hopes of seeing something less pricey I'll say..

M3 coupe = $61-64k
M3 sedan = $58-61k MSRP
Don't miss out the E46 330 and M3 difference...<$12k. You think you're smart, but your math doesn't work here for the 3er.
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      10-16-2007, 01:54 PM   #36
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Don't miss out the E46 330 and M3 difference...<$12k. You think you're smart, but your math doesn't work here for the 3er.
Yep.

He's making some pretty big generalizations there. Check out the Z4 3.0si vs. the Z4 M:

Z4 3.0si coupe: $40,400
Z4 M coupe: $50,100

Z4 3.0si roadster: $42,400
Z4 M roadster: $52,100

The difference is exactly $9700 for both (making the M versions of those an absolute no brainer by the way). And since the prices of the Z4s are very similar to the prices for the 335s, we could just as easily predict a $50k-$51k starting price for the M3.

Of course, I'm aware that the M3, M5 and M6 are more different from their non-M models than the Z4 M (body-work). However, there is a hole lot of space to play in between $9700 and $24000. Furthermore, differences in standard equipment were not taken into account with any of these comparisons.

I think as time goes on its becoming clear that a sub $60k base price for the M3 is most likely.
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Don't miss out the E46 330 and M3 difference...<$12k. You think you're smart, but your math doesn't work here for the 3er.
I was aware of the Z model price difference.

I was basing the numbers on the current generation of BMWs only. I think it will be more relevant to E90/92.
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I was aware of the Z model price difference.
Then why didn't you include it in your analysis?
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Drove by the dealer today in Taipei Taiwan and they had a white M3. Price is 5 million NT dollars. Thats about US 161,000
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Don't miss out the E46 330 and M3 difference...<$12k. You think you're smart, but your math doesn't work here for the 3er.
Why not? The MSRP difference between old 540i 6spd vs. the old M5 is around 15k. The new m3 will start around 64-65k, anything less is ridiculous.
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The new m3 will start around 64-65k, anything less is ridiculous.
Ridiculous? So 62k is ridiculous?
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Why not? The MSRP difference between old 540i 6spd vs. the old M5 is around 15k. The new m3 will start around 64-65k, anything less is ridiculous.
mkoesel +1. i don't agree with the whole logic of "if the difference between the 540 and the M5 was 15k then the difference between the 335i and the M3 must be 15k." previous prices can be an indicator of what the price might be, but in no way are they definite. plus, why would it be ridiculous for it to be less? do you really wanna pay more money?

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M3 E46 vs E92price in Finland

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Could you share about the price of the New M3 with reference to E46 M3 in different places around the world?

I live in Hong Kong. Earlier this week, my dealer called me saying that the new M3 would cost some 70% more than E46 M3! Such price is some 20% away from a Posche Carerra S.

I have placed a deposit for some 2 years but I really have great hesitation now as I cannot convince myself about the big price gap between E92M3 and E46M3.
The M3 E46 (basic car without options) costed 89 000 and the new M3 E92 101 000.... these were/are the prices in Finland. =(
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OT

Let the OT US base price continue to go OT

It is important to look at the spread between highest non M model and M model to figure out where BMW will price the M3 in the US. However, competitors prices are just as important. The next important fact is that the 3er is no longer just a 3er. What I mean by this is that BMW has deliberately taken the 3er to larger, more luxurious, more powerful and in many ways closer to what the 5er used to be. They have done this because most cars are naturally getting larger (and safer) as well as to make room for the new 1er. So what does this mean? It means that the differential is likely to be closer to that of the 550->M5 than the Z4->Z4 M.

As far as competition goes this thing can be >$60k base and still be priced less than RS4, 911, C63 AMG and in most ways outperform all of them. Why should BMW charge less than $60k base then? The only reason would be the psychological barrier of $60k or their belief that $60k+ would prevent them from selling their target of 50k cars over the life of the model. Sort of the same thing. Any bets on base <$60k?

P.S. The sinking dollar to euro ratio does not help either!
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